The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread
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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread
Postby tedsbikes » Tue Mar 07, 2017 1:31 pm
bare metal before refinishing.
Frame 2211gm
Fork 724 gm
Total 2935 gm
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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread
Postby stucad » Fri Mar 24, 2017 5:06 pm
ironhanglider wrote:Early 80's(?) Tandem frame 531 Tandem tubing - 5kg
As far as I can tell it is a custom build by Pete Corbin from Sydney. Forgot to weigh the forks - sorry. They are also 531 Tandem tubing. The previous owner reckons that it was 1996 however the 126mm rear spacing and the top of BB cable guides suggest otherwise to me. Possibly NOS at the time.
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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread
Postby Torana68 » Sat Mar 25, 2017 6:07 pm
probs a real good idea to start your own thread rather than mess up the frame weight thread......
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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread
Postby Lots of steel bikes » Sat Mar 25, 2017 7:46 pm
and we would all like to see photos of your bike.Torana68 wrote:stucad wrote:............... Is there any information you could give me about him and his bikes? Thanks.
probs a real good idea to start your own thread rather than mess up the frame weight thread......
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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread
Postby stucad » Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:26 pm
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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread
Postby find_bruce » Mon May 22, 2017 10:41 pm
Frame 1,960g
Fork 700 gm
Total 2,660 g
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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread
Postby QuangVuong » Mon May 22, 2017 11:49 pm
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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread
Postby P!N20 » Tue May 23, 2017 12:07 pm
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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread
Postby find_bruce » Tue May 23, 2017 12:33 pm
Size is perfect Quang - basically the same as my shogun. 54 was the top tube - you said 53 centre to centre, I just checked & it is probably 53.5.QuangVuong wrote:54cm? Did I measure it up wrong? Will it still fit you?
Seat tube I measured 52 cm centre to top - you measured 50 cm centre to centre, so same same.
Suigno Aero Mighty 19.2mm x 31.5mm, length =190mm giving ~60mm adjustment, 232g - looks like a 26mm tube that has been pressed to a tear drop shapeP!N20 wrote:^^ What's that seatpost?
Photos of a similar post on fleabay
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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread
Postby P!N20 » Tue May 23, 2017 12:48 pm
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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread
Postby find_bruce » Tue May 23, 2017 12:57 pm
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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread
Postby QuangVuong » Tue May 23, 2017 1:18 pm
This is called the E type.
This is the sharper oval shape called the C type.
Asher(a.davis12) prob can tell you even more about the different types.
http://www.fixed.org.au/forums/showthread.php?t=32379
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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread
Postby P!N20 » Tue May 23, 2017 1:34 pm
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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread
Postby singlespeedscott » Tue May 23, 2017 6:51 pm
A type was your standard round insert with an aero top shaftP!N20 wrote:The mystery is what happened to the A-type - was it just the same as the B-type?
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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread
Postby P!N20 » Wed May 24, 2017 8:45 am
OK then, what was the B-type?singlespeedscott wrote:A type was your standard round insert with an aero top shaft
Velobase lists the B-type (SP-7310), C-type (SP-7320) and E-type (SP-7322), so where is the A-type? And how did it differ from the B-type which looks round to me (despite the catalogue scan saying it was 'semi-oval'.)
I know Velobase isn't without its errors, but even if the B-type listed is actually the A-type, that still begs the question what was the B-type? In other words, there are three known types, but four in the catalogue, where is the fourth?
I also know catalogues differed from actual production, so maybe they just canned the semi-oval job and called the round seatpost the B-type.
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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread
Postby find_bruce » Wed May 24, 2017 9:53 am
As you say Velobase is good, its not god. Looking at the catalogue photo of the 3 posts, I see standard round with fluting, round insertion with aero top and oval insertion with round top. I haven't seen a 7300 standard round seat tube with or without fluting. The way I read it is
- 7300 A-type - standard round seat post - ie round all the way
- 7310 B-type - round insertion, semi oval aero top
- 7320 C-type - tear drop insertion, round top
- 7322 E-type - oval insertion, round top
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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread
Postby tedsbikes » Sat Jun 24, 2017 3:33 pm
Frame 1913 gm
Fork 669 gm
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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread
Postby tedsbikes » Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:18 pm
Frame 1953gm
Fork 721gm
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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread
Postby DD » Mon Jul 23, 2018 5:07 pm
Im trying to get infomation on my fathers Speedwell track frame and fork from his youth, i was told it was a 1938 speedwell gold cup track bike.
I read a few years back that all gold cups had serials starting with a G, mine being G28285.
Overall weight of forks and frame are 2770g including lower steering cups on forks.
Some pics below
Any information would help.
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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread
Postby Torana68 » Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:32 pm
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=96584&hilit=Speedwell+appreciation
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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread
Postby thecraig » Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:13 am
Tubing - Oria .8 (Presumably Hi -ten)
54cm sq
Frame - 2250gm
Fork - circa 700gm
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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread
Postby cage » Thu Jul 26, 2018 6:09 pm
ST 57 c-c
TT 56 c-c
Unfortunately no forks with this one.
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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread
Postby uart » Thu Jul 26, 2018 6:33 pm
Yeah that does seem unusual, to have a larger frame in the same tube set to weight that much less. I wonder if there is a measurement error involved or perhaps some (or all) of the BB included in the other measurement. (Or is it possible that just the headset cups could make that much difference?)cage wrote:Well that's interesting. My Mittiga frame which is bigger weighs 2.09gm.
ST 57 c-c
TT 56 c-c
Unfortunately no forks with this one.
Still, 2.09 kg seems pretty good for a "Hi Ten" frame, a lot lighter than my crmo repco superlite frame. That's going to come in well under 3.0 kg with any half decent fork.
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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread
Postby thecraig » Sat Jul 28, 2018 3:33 pm
You got me thinking and I went back a reweighed with a better scale and you are spot on - 2050gms for the frame.cage wrote:Well that's interesting. My Mittiga frame which is bigger weighs 2.09gm.
ST 57 c-c
TT 56 c-c
Unfortunately no forks with this one.
Interestingly, your colour scheme is the exact opposite of the one I have. Mine's white where yours is black and visa versa. Same decals though.
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