This is where it went off topic: viewtopic.php?f=53&p=1595019#p1594982 and then completely derailed.warthog1 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 4:36 pmI didn't introduce Holland to the discussion, nor did I make a comparison between their cycling injury rates and ours or intimate that they were somehow comparable.uart wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 1:28 pmResorting to criticisms of racism and colonialism? This is getting way off topic so I"ll bow out.warthog1 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 12:10 pm.Holland is anything but perfect imo.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53261944
Colonialism?
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/07/07/euro ... index.html
Simply pointing out that what held up as a cycling Shangri La is not without fault. That seems as valid to me as comparing the fatality rates of 2 places that are so poles apart in terms of cycling infrastructure.
Is it more off topic than mandatory helmet laws?
Glad we are finished discussing such nondense.
If you don't do sports, you still have risks - through getting unfit and all the problems that go along with that.