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Hi all,

I am excited to be returning to road cycling but as excited as I am it is overwhelming with the amount of choice I have in terms of frame sets and components.

I have determined that I would like to try a steel frame (I have previously ridden aluminium and carbon framesets) and I am very enticed by the Standert Triebwerk Disc and CR models.

As this forum has a wide breadth of experience and knowledge I was seeing if there was anything in terms of frame materials and component selection that these two models might have that may be cause for concern. Any advice or personal experience with the group sets, wheel sets, or the brand itself is greatly appreciated.

I will mainly be using the new bike for commuting, afternoon rides after work, longer weekend riding, and cafe rides.

The links are below for ease of access.

https://standert.de/collections/triebwerk-disc

https://standert.de/collections/triebwerk-cr

Really it just comes down to whether you have a preference for rim brakes or disc brakes - there's nothing particularly unusual about either of these frames. Just make sure that the BB you select when buying the frameset matches the cranks you want to use.

What groupset are you looking to put on it?

Don't have personal experience but know someone who has bought one and experience has gone smoothly.

In that category it's probably worth also looking at the Fairlight Strael and the Ritchey Road Logic (but by all accounts the Standerts are quite nice).

Tucked away on one of the bike's photos I noticed a "Hand Made in Taiwan" sticker.
Now this isn't a bad thing. Many of the best bike frames are built there these days. It's nice Italian Columbus steel tubing, probably put together in a large mass producing, quality assured factory. Again, not a bad thing but not exactly a unique or "boutique" product as is commonly sought after by some people.
If I wanted something special my attention would be directed to a locally built, custom made frame, probably around the same or similar price. One such as I already own. Columbus tubing, made-to-measure, locally built and painted. About $3000 (frame only).

In relation to disc versus rim brakes, my experience of riding rim brakes when others in the group have discs is that it can be sketchy.

Braking with discs is a lot more "instant" with higher initial bite, which led to a few "interesting" moments in early 2022 when there were unexpected behaviours from other road users in front of the group. Disc brakes are also far more effective in the wet. I have now switched to discs and sold my rim brake bike.

I anticipate that it will get more difficult to get high end groupsets with rim brakes as time progresses.

In relation to disc versus rim brakes, my experience of riding rim brakes when others in the group have discs is that it can be sketchy.

Braking with discs is a lot more "instant" with higher initial bite, which led to a few "interesting" moments in early 2022 when there were unexpected behaviours from other road users in front of the group. Disc brakes are also far more effective in the wet. I have now switched to discs and sold my rim brake bike.

I anticipate that it will get more difficult to get high end groupsets with rim brakes as time progresses.

2wheels_mond wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:45 pm

Really it just comes down to whether you have a preference for rim brakes or disc brakes - there's nothing particularly unusual about either of these frames. Just make sure that the BB you select when buying the frameset matches the cranks you want to use.

What groupset are you looking to put on it?

Don't have personal experience but know someone who has bought one and experience has gone smoothly.

In that category it's probably worth also looking at the Fairlight Strael and the Ritchey Road Logic (but by all accounts the Standerts are quite nice).

I am not fussed really. I have never run electronic shifting on a bike before so SRAM force might be worth giving a whirl.