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Postby warthog1 » Fri Mar 18, 2022 1:52 pm

https://www.this link is broken.au/continental-g ... -road-tyre

$164- for a single bike tyre that will last you maybe 4-5k km.
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Postby foo on patrol » Fri Mar 18, 2022 2:20 pm

Holy crap, my good Track tubs don't cost me that! :shock:

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Postby blizzard » Fri Mar 18, 2022 2:24 pm

Can we post the whole Specialized website... Extremely expensive for mass market bikes

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Postby elantra » Fri Mar 18, 2022 9:12 pm

For 164 dollars, you would expect a whole wheel ! :shock:

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Postby trailgumby » Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:30 pm

warthog1 wrote:
Fri Mar 18, 2022 1:52 pm
https://www.this link is broken.au/continental-g ... -road-tyre

$164- for a single bike tyre that will last you maybe 4-5k km.
"No longer available"

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Postby uart » Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:44 pm

warthog1 wrote:
Fri Mar 18, 2022 1:52 pm
$164- for a single bike tyre that will last you maybe 4-5k km.
They're showing up as "no longer available" for me at the moment, but the GP5000 are showing up as $64 (or $124 per pair).

BTW. What's the difference between the GP5000 and the GP5000s. Does anyone know?

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Postby foo on patrol » Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:56 pm

uart wrote:
Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:44 pm
warthog1 wrote:
Fri Mar 18, 2022 1:52 pm
$164- for a single bike tyre that will last you maybe 4-5k km.
They're showing up as "no longer available" for me at the moment, but the GP5000 are showing up as $64 (or $124 per pair).

BTW. What's the difference between the GP5000 and the GP5000s. Does anyone know?

About $100's. :lol: :lol:

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Postby warthog1 » Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:20 pm

GP5000S TR is tubeless ready.
Regular 5000 is not.

However, yeah as Foo says, about $100.
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Postby warthog1 » Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:21 pm

elantra wrote:
Fri Mar 18, 2022 9:12 pm
For 164 dollars, you would expect a whole wheel ! :shock:
Yep, that says it well.
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Postby MattyK » Tue Mar 22, 2022 4:55 pm

Not so much rip-off, but death by confusion here:
Shimano shifter cables. What's the difference between Select, Advanced, and Ultimate?
And why is buying two Ultimate inner cables more expensive than buying a whole kit?

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Postby stevenaaus » Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:14 am

Pushys pushing the boundaries on pricey gimmicks
https://www.pushys.com.au/open-min-d-ro ... d-kit.html

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Postby Retrobyte » Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:51 am

stevenaaus wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:14 am
Pushys pushing the boundaries on pricey gimmicks
https://www.pushys.com.au/open-min-d-ro ... d-kit.html
Build it yourself for $19k?

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Postby Mr Purple » Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:01 am

stevenaaus wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:14 am
Pushys pushing the boundaries on pricey gimmicks
https://www.pushys.com.au/open-min-d-ro ... d-kit.html
$19,000 for a bike and you have to assemble it yourself? No.

Shimano cables are ridiculously confusing. Particularly when it seems the more expensive ones (optislick) reportedly don't last as long.

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Postby Tim » Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:39 am

I think I can decipher Bikebug's branding of Shimano gear cables:

Select - Stainless Steel, cheapest (within this range), reasonably durable (about 5K km's for me), highest friction but perfectly okay on 10/11 speed systems.

Advanced/Optislick - PTFE (Teflon) Coated Stainless Steel, mid-priced, 5k km's durability for me, reduced friction/easy shifting, best value vs performance IMHO.

Ultimate - Polymer Coated Stainless Steel, most expensive, poor durability (<5k km), least friction but the polymer coating rubs off and "fluffs-up" at any contact/friction point such as inside the shifters and at entry and exit from ferrules.

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Postby biker jk » Tue Mar 29, 2022 12:35 pm

Tim wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 11:39 am
I think I can decipher Bikebug's branding of Shimano gear cables:

Select - Stainless Steel, cheapest (within this range), reasonably durable (about 5K km's for me), highest friction but perfectly okay on 10/11 speed systems.

Advanced/Optislick - PTFE (Teflon) Coated Stainless Steel, mid-priced, 5k km's durability for me, reduced friction/easy shifting, best value vs performance IMHO.

Ultimate - Polymer Coated Stainless Steel, most expensive, poor durability (<5k km), least friction but the polymer coating rubs off and "fluffs-up" at any contact/friction point such as inside the shifters and at entry and exit from ferrules.
I only buy the Stainless Steel cables (least expensive) but have a jar of Shimano shifter cable grease that I use. Agree that the Polymer coated cables are the worst performing. Used them once (they came with a new groupset) but never again.

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Postby trailgumby » Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:24 pm

warthog1 wrote:
Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:20 pm
GP5000S TR is tubeless ready.
Regular 5000 is not.

However, yeah as Foo says, about $100.
Reckon I'll stick with $10 tubes then.

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Postby warthog1 » Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:41 pm

trailgumby wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:24 pm
warthog1 wrote:
Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:20 pm
GP5000S TR is tubeless ready.
Regular 5000 is not.

However, yeah as Foo says, about $100.
Reckon I'll stick with $10 tubes then.
I have had a great run from road tubeless and definitely prefer it to tubes.
Not paying stupid prices for the tyres though. Back to tubes next time if I need to purchase and they remain stupidly expensive.
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Postby Mr Purple » Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:22 pm

trailgumby wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:24 pm
warthog1 wrote:
Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:20 pm
GP5000S TR is tubeless ready.
Regular 5000 is not.

However, yeah as Foo says, about $100.
Reckon I'll stick with $10 tubes then.
$10 tubes? Look at Mr Fancy Pants here!

$7 Conti Races here. In packs of 10.

I'm currently being put off road tubeless because I'm suspicious I'll get similar mileage out of them to clinchers. And that seems like a lot of things to faff about with every 1000km or so.

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Postby biker jk » Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:51 pm

Mr Purple wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:22 pm
trailgumby wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:24 pm
warthog1 wrote:
Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:20 pm
GP5000S TR is tubeless ready.
Regular 5000 is not.

However, yeah as Foo says, about $100.
Reckon I'll stick with $10 tubes then.
$10 tubes? Look at Mr Fancy Pants here!

$7 Conti Races here. In packs of 10.

I'm currently being put off road tubeless because I'm suspicious I'll get similar mileage out of them to clinchers. And that seems like a lot of things to faff about with every 1000km or so.
Conti Race Lights are $11 if you're a weight weenie. :lol:

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Postby trailgumby » Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:00 pm

Mr Purple wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:22 pm
$10 tubes? Look at Mr Fancy Pants here!
' :lol: :lol: I got no idea! Can't remember the last time I bought tubes.

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Postby uart » Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:03 pm

warthog1 wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:41 pm
Not paying stupid prices for the tyres though. Back to tubes next time if I need to purchase and they remain stupidly expensive.
Sorry for the dumb question guys (I haven't had much to do with tubeless), but what happens if you try running a regular 5000GP in a tubeless setup? Are the sidewalls too porous or something? What about if you just used a little bit more sealant in them. Just wondering if anyone has ever tried to make it work. :?:

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Postby warthog1 » Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:17 pm

uart wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:03 pm


Sorry for the dumb question guys (I haven't had much to do with tubeless), but what happens if you try running a regular 5000GP in a tubeless setup? Are the sidewalls too porous or something? What about if you just used a little bit more sealant in them. Just wondering if anyone has ever tried to make it work. :?:
I am far newer to the tubeless game than many and no expert.
Yes, the entire carcass would be more porous I expect.
The main concern would be lack of seal at the bead I expect. The sealant is too far away to help and I'd be scared that even if they inflated, aren't designed to be airtight and would be more likely to "burp" resulting in a sudden loss of air pressure.
Seating tubeless tyres when you fit them can be hard with some tyres and that is with the correct bead. Probably just wouldn't seat and hold air.
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Postby MattyK » Wed Mar 30, 2022 1:21 pm

Mr Purple wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:22 pm

$10 tubes? Look at Mr Fancy Pants here!

$7 Conti Races here. In packs of 10.

I'm currently being put off road tubeless because I'm suspicious I'll get similar mileage out of them to clinchers. And that seems like a lot of things to faff about with every 1000km or so.
Lol you're replacing tyres every 1000km or less, so no need to faff with replacing/topping up sealant on a periodic basis.

Otherwise - latex tubes FTW if you want to get fancy schmancy.

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Postby Mr Purple » Wed Mar 30, 2022 4:11 pm

I'm not worried about the sealant. I'm worried about having to fit a new tyre including sealant every 1000km!

Plus at $140/pop that doesn't sound like fun.

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Postby Retrobyte » Thu Mar 31, 2022 12:15 pm

Come on, you know you really need a tube that costs as much as some tyres ....

https://www.bikebug.com/pirelli-p-zero- ... 260mm.html

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