Maybe it is the adrenaline produced by riding at scary speeds like that on a bikeway that is getting his heart rate up
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Postby jasonc » Mon Jan 22, 2024 12:29 pm
what's the recording device? is it a phone?Mr Purple wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2024 10:01 amSo I missed a KOM to a particular 'cyclist' on Saturday - well travelled road leading to the V1 veloway and I took two out of three KOMs for the climb but missed the steepest one despite averaging 613W for 40 seconds at 3.8%.
I missed it by seven seconds and 7.4km/hr so I checked the guys Strava analysis.
Same guy holds multiple 'KOMs' along the V1 veloway both directions. Look at the acceleration - 0 to 100km/hr in seconds.
Any tips to what he's 'riding'? My guess is a 5kW+ e-scooter. The bit that has me thrown is that he's running a HRM and is genuinely getting his HR above 100 at times, albeit not by much.
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Postby Andy01 » Mon Jan 22, 2024 12:43 pm
It might be a device sample rate - even some bike computers can be set to "sample" every 5 seconds, rather than 1 second.Mr Purple wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2024 11:02 amI've never seen an acceleration curve like that, it's literally vertical. Pretty sure my car can't accelerate that fast.
Or it could be an electric motorbike - for some strange reason most of them seem to think it is perfectly OK to ride on shared paths and bike paths.
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Postby Mr Purple » Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:45 pm
It's a watch - Garmin Fenix 5X +. This might explain why there's a heart rate visible despite the guy clearly not actually setting out to do any exercise.
Had a look at the comparison over the segment - at the steepest part (6.7%) he's doing 48km/hr. So yeah, I think we can write that one off as legitimate. Maximum speed on that ride is 82km/hr crossing Juliette Street on the V1 Veloway.
It's an electric motorbike of some description.
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Postby redsonic » Mon Jan 22, 2024 8:09 pm
ABC News
Police ethical standards command is investigating
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Postby Mr Purple » Tue Jan 23, 2024 8:51 am
3:30AM. I imagine e-scooters are a fantastic getaway vehicle.
Having said that we don't have the death penalty so it's good to see it's being investigated.
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Re: the Crazy eDevice rider thread
Postby hunch » Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:54 am
I notice every cassette I've looked at has a totally unworn top ring, the others usually rusty and the chain hasn't seen lube since bought.familyguy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 5:13 pmGo to almost ANY beachside suburb in NSW and you'll see those by the dozen. Mona Vale last weekend had quite a few. Any Wollongong beach bike rack will be covered in them. I spoke to a coastal town bike mechanic a few months ago who said the chains and brakes get chewed out very rapidly. They often get bought in cause someone crashes one when it won't stop or it gets noisy because the chain is way over length. New brakes and chain, back it goes. More money than sense.nescius wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 8:51 pmI spent the last week in Manly and these things were everywhere, they come in 250W and 750W form and from the looks of it they can be derestricted via the menu, they also have a throttle that can be unlocked. Most had at least two teenagers on board, it wasn't uncommon to see three, not sure how quickly the ol' tektro 180mm rotor would stop them. Maybe I'm getting old but it seemed to me they were being used in a very unsafe way, much too fast in high pedestrian traffic areas, and the riders did not look like they had full control, it was actually frightening.
Manly is bad for kids, multiple pillioning at unsafe speed on the footpath, record I've seen is 4 on the bike! I see the Dirodi ads on FB, which seem to be the most common, have people spouting off the 750w ones are road legal - and you should get the big block one just to be safe for hills. No correction from the vendor.
My main bugbear with the e things....and food deliverers seem the worst, is overtaking on the left which they all seem to be accustomed to do, when you take the lane at stop signs or lights.
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Postby Retrobyte » Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:01 am
Yep - when I take the lane at lights in the Parrmatta CBD very often food delivery guys will pull up on my left and my right, like we're on the starting grid for a MotoGP. And they will be yapping away on the phone. And wearing thongs.
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Postby Mr Purple » Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:21 pm
I’ll reserve my judgement but geez it went up quick. The number of moron drivers who thought it was a great idea to drive down the clearly closed off street through the thick smoke was remarkable…
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Postby blizzard » Fri Jan 26, 2024 10:29 pm
Wow close to home. I do worry that these fires on cheap devices will lead to bans on all e-devices in end of trips.Mr Purple wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:21 pmHouse three doors down just burnt down. Apparently they owned a few e-scooters and the neighbourhood rumour mill already believes one went ‘bang’.
I’ll reserve my judgement but geez it went up quick. The number of moron drivers who thought it was a great idea to drive down the clearly closed off street through the thick smoke was remarkable…
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Postby Mr Purple » Fri Jan 26, 2024 10:39 pm
House is gone, not sure they’ve even managed to put the fire out now four hours later. Poor buggers.
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Re: the Crazy eDevice rider thread
Postby skyblot » Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:46 am
And that's a problem yet to be managed. These battery cells are being made in their millions - I've heard a Tesla car battery has 7000 cells - and it's unreasonable to expect 100% success rate with zero faults with that quantity being made. Unlike the vast majority of products that simply stop working if faulty, lithium batteries tend to fail in a catastrophic and spectacular manner!
Managing and mitigating the risk I guess is the only solution at present, but how many people are going to want to keep their battery devices in a concrete fireproof bunker for instance.
I have a faulty e-bike battery I need to safely dispose of, 36V 20 Ah that although charged only shows 25V across the terminals. I suspect it is a fault in the management circuit and not a cell issue, but I still eye it off as it sits in the middle of a concrete pad and wonder if it's a ticking bomb. The council accepts the batteries for recycling so that's where it will go, but I suspect they don't really know what to do with it either!
And I see Transport for London have lost another e-bus to a battery fire. That's 3 out of their 90 bus fleet so far.
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Re: the Crazy eDevice rider thread
Postby Mr Purple » Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:47 pm
Had a positive result of an interaction with an e-bike rider today. In that he tried to pass me up a 4% hill while I was doing 30km/hr, and this annoyed me so much I had to absolutely destroy him and in the process accidentally took two XC mountain bike KOMs on my gravel bike. Motivation!
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Re: the Crazy eDevice rider thread
Postby zebee » Sat Jan 27, 2024 5:03 pm
My high quality (Bionx RIP alas) e-bike setup has very clearly in the manual that the battery should not be left charging but should be monitored and the charger turned off as soon as the charge is complete. They were Canadian so right next to the lawsuit capital of the world. I bet that the cheapo bikes/batteries have similar wording in their manuals if they have them. And if they don't have manuals I bet the importer has already phoenixed into a new one.Mr Purple wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:47 pmI don't imagine the quality control and battery management of lithium batteries in imported e-scooters is anywhere near that of mainstream auto manufacturers at least, though agree the potential for a problem is still there. How long is it until someone who loses a house to an e-scooter fire sues both the importer and the manufacturer? I'd be having a long hard think about doing it if it were my house that just burned to the ground.
Plus given all the publicity I think it would be hard to make a case that you had a reasonable expectation that you could leave it on charge. Proving it wasn't on charge when it went kaboom would be hard too.
You can hope your insurer would do the lawsuit thing but they are more likely to say they don't cover e-things or e-thing charging on your next renewal. That's scary as hell. (I had to change insurer because Shannons say they don't cover e-things)
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Postby redsonic » Sat Jan 27, 2024 6:08 pm
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Re: the Crazy eDevice rider thread
Postby Mr Purple » Sat Jan 27, 2024 6:36 pm
The car out the front isn't actually theirs - some poor bugger parked it there and it had to be towed away this morning. That's unfortunate.
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Re: the Crazy eDevice rider thread
Postby familyguy » Sat Jan 27, 2024 6:54 pm
The last few times I've been through here it has been ebike central. This is not a surprise,,sadly.
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Re: the Crazy eDevice rider thread
Postby Mr Purple » Mon Jan 29, 2024 10:58 am
Bus to the city, where Beam seemed to be promising me the choice of many e-bikes - I refuse to ride a scooter. Only to arrive and their idea of an e-bike is an e-scooter with a seat on it, so no.
Eventually caved and hired a Neuron scooter for the few kilometre journey. Absolutely horrendous. The 25km/hr limit up here is way too fast on something that incompetent, the thumb controlled throttle extremely sensitive and at one point I managed to do a wheelie by accident, and there is the sense the whole time that physics are trying to conspire against you and murder you. And I'm a 300km per week cyclist with plenty of skateboarding experience. Hate to think what they're like for the average punter.
I understand the higher powered e-scooters have better tyres, brakes and stability but I'd hate to be doing well over twice that speed on one.
To make it worse the Uber all the way home wasn't that much more expensive!
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Re: the Crazy eDevice rider thread
Postby g-boaf » Mon Jan 29, 2024 11:41 am
These things you’d want to keep well away from your house, in their own shed so that if one decides to go up then at least your house will hopefully be safe.
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