Steel frame recommendations
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Steel frame recommendations
Postby Whipry » Mon Apr 19, 2021 9:29 pm
I have been thinking about an Italian steel frame for a while and I am undecided between a classic style or a more contemporary style (may be more versatile and easier to ride). May be classic and contemporary are not the best word to use but I have been looking mostly at Tommasini Techno or Zullo Vergine. I guess they would ride and handle differently. Has anyone got any experience with either or any feedback.
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Re: Steel frame recommendations
Postby minhyy » Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:57 am
Beyond that, the different tubing and geometry is dependent on what sort of ride quality you are looking for.
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Re: Steel frame recommendations
Postby Whipry » Wed Apr 21, 2021 5:24 pm
Thanks again
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Re: Steel frame recommendations
Postby nickobec » Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:11 pm
I would disagree, with modern running gear a classic steel frame is as practical as any other bike.
I have a late Columbus SLX aero Flanders (Belgian brand) frame probably from the late 80s and made in Italy by Technotrat.
I have it set up with modern running gear, SRAM red groupset, DT Swiss wheelset with tubeless 25mm Schwable One though it is still has a quill stem and classic Cinelli bars. In theory it is a Sunday best bike, but it is used for everything, coffee shop rides, bunch rides (fast and slow), hills ride (including where does that gravel track go adventures), solo training rides, commutes (but they are 40km+ with 32km of almost uninterrupted bike path) and even been raced.
I have a few bikes, including a slightly newer steel as well as carbon frames, but usually only ride two, the Flanders and an alloy Canyon Ultimate which set up as a crit bike (fast and twitchy) and the choice is usually my mood and a little of where are we riding today.
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Re: Steel frame recommendations
Postby Thoglette » Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:59 pm
And “modern” in this context, is anything after the arrival of 8sp hyperglide and dual pivot brakes. (Plus or minus a bit. And yes I’d throw on a “touring” derailleur so I can stuff a 30t cog on there)
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Re: Steel frame recommendations
Postby vbplease » Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:02 am
Can you post a pic? That sounds really coolnickobec wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:11 pmI have a late Columbus SLX aero Flanders (Belgian brand) frame probably from the late 80s and made in Italy by Technotrat.
I have it set up with modern running gear, SRAM red groupset, DT Swiss wheelset with tubeless 25mm Schwable One though it is still has a quill stem and classic Cinelli bars.
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Re: Steel frame recommendations
Postby P!N20 » Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:31 am
Just have a scroll through the Handmade Bicycle Show list: http://www.handmadebicycleshow.cc/the-makers
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Re: Steel frame recommendations
Postby MichaelB » Fri Apr 23, 2021 11:16 am
There are some that aren’t on there, with one being Darrell who is making my Llewellyn Discus ColussusP!N20 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:31 am
Just have a scroll through the Handmade Bicycle Show list: http://www.handmadebicycleshow.cc/the-makers
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Re: Steel frame recommendations
Postby MichaelB » Fri Apr 23, 2021 12:50 pm
Not quite last, but think it will be close to the end. Seemingly starting to suffer from bursitis in some joints, hence slowing down on the super polished jobbies, but mine will be fine
Prova was probably the #2 pick. Love the carbon seat tubes
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Re: Steel frame recommendations
Postby nickobec » Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:43 pm
From a couple years ago, now with different wheel set, seat post, bottle cages and an out front mount for the wahoo
cost me with a NOS frame, lightly used group set, wheel set and new power meter less than a new Tommasini frame.
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Re: Steel frame recommendations
Postby P!N20 » Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:54 pm
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Re: Steel frame recommendations
Postby Whipry » Sat Apr 24, 2021 2:09 pm
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Re: Steel frame recommendations
Postby baabaa » Sat Apr 24, 2021 4:12 pm
https://cycle.panasonic.com/products/pos/custom_order/
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Re: Steel frame recommendations
Postby Thoglette » Sat Apr 24, 2021 4:51 pm
Jolly good thought, oh wooly one!
And there's a range of shops that export all over the world and have English versions of their webpages. Haven't used anyone recently enough to recommend anyone. Y75,000 to Y150,000 for Panasonic frames =~$900 to $1800 AU + shipping + GST
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Re: Steel frame recommendations
Postby Tim » Sat Apr 24, 2021 5:31 pm
Thoglette wrote:Jolly good thought, oh wooly one!
And there's a range of shops that export all over the world and have English versions of their webpages. Haven't used anyone recently enough to recommend anyone. Y75,000 to Y150,000 for Panasonic frames =~$900 to $1800 AU + shipping + GST
I wish I hadn't read this post.
Modern lugged Tange tubing, Campag parts. My heart is racing. I feel an irresistible urge.
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Re: Steel frame recommendations
Postby caneye » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:41 am
how about Cherubim?
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Re: Steel frame recommendations
Postby sonatine » Thu May 13, 2021 12:58 pm
Does anyone know where to get it from? Any local Aus shop?
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Re: Steel frame recommendations
Postby Whipry » Fri May 14, 2021 1:47 pm
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Re: Steel frame recommendations
Postby 10speedsemiracer » Wed May 19, 2021 12:57 am
I would also suggest a custom frame by Gordon Hill. He'll make you a frame that will do whatever you want.
Qualifier, I do not have a current era Hillman frame. I prefer his earlier albums, of which I now have two ..
One of them is getting the full restomod treatment after I ditched the 105 7sp. The other one, I'm not sure on just yet. Maybe an era correct resto with SunTour 7s Accu-Shift ...
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Re: Steel frame recommendations
Postby Tim » Wed May 19, 2021 7:52 am
Racked up over 5K on her. Smooth, comfortable, beautiful handling and Gordon has been a pleasure to do business with.
Highly recommend.
(I have since shortened the steerer and gone all black spacers)
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Re: Steel frame recommendations
Postby warthog1 » Wed May 19, 2021 9:19 am
Did I hear, "Tim, get that bloody bike out of the loungeroom!", though?
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Re: Steel frame recommendations
Postby Tim » Wed May 19, 2021 11:54 am
All on my lonesome these days.warthog1 wrote: Did I hear, "Tim, get that bloody bike out of the loungeroom!", though?
I have bikes in the loungeroom, bedroom, study and laundry.
Anywhere I like. Bachelordom has at least one advantage.
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