New Australian WCh and Olympics track bikes

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New Australian WCh and Olympics track bikes

Postby stevenaaus » Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:23 pm

Geez.. I dunno about eschewing normal dropbars for this aero monstrosities. :wink:
For the world champs and Olympics.

https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cyclin ... pionships/

Also, am I missing something, or is it very short notice to be having such a different bike for the champs which are on "this week"?

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Re: New Australian WCh and Olympics track bikes

Postby Derny Driver » Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:48 pm

The frame looks exactly the same as the bikes they have been using for the last 12 months. The slightly different fork wont make any noticeable difference to the handling.
Sam Welsford showed me a set of weird handlebars at the Nationals last December, something he said complied with UCI regulations but gives them an aero hand position on the top of the bars. These bars were made by someone close to the team with input from the riders and the coaching staff. I have never seen anything quite like them.
Experimenting with unusual handlebar configurations is commonplace for these guys and the ones in the photo look quite tame compared to things they have trialled.
The bike skills of the Olympic track team have to be seen to be believed. They could ride anything without an issue.

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Re: New Australian WCh and Olympics track bikes

Postby P!N20 » Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:49 pm

The bike is available to the public via Argon 18 for US$18,000 (£13,800), which includes the Zipp wheelset and the sprint and pursuit forks.

Sweet. Need a new fixie.

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Re: New Australian WCh and Olympics track bikes

Postby stevenaaus » Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:20 pm

Derny Driver wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:48 pm
The frame looks exactly the same as the bikes they have been using for the last 12 months. The slightly different fork wont make any noticeable difference to the handling.
Sam Welsford showed me a set of weird handlebars at the Nationals last December, something he said complied with UCI regulations but gives them an aero hand position on the top of the bars. These bars were made by someone close to the team with input from the riders and the coaching staff. I have never seen anything quite like them.
Experimenting with unusual handlebar configurations is commonplace for these guys and the ones in the photo look quite tame compared to things they have trialled.
The bike skills of the Olympic track team have to be seen to be believed. They could ride anything without an issue.
Yeah, i know nothing about track.. but hard to think new bikes inside a week of a competition is a good thing. How subtle are any improvements in team pursuit (for eg) where we qualified fifth today, an event which we've won three of the last four years... but whatever :?

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Re: New Australian WCh and Olympics track bikes

Postby Derny Driver » Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:55 pm

stevenaaus wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:20 pm
How subtle are any improvements in team pursuit (for eg) where we qualified fifth today, an event which we've won three of the last four years... but whatever :?
I dont think we even ran our A team today mate.
The big engine is Kell O'Brien and he's still recovering from a broken collarbone. The others are in training load mode.
The target has always been the Olympics. Sadly CA has no interest in World Championships. Im betting that in Tokyo the Aussies will not only win Gold in the TP but smash the World record. Like 3:35 or something. We will wait and see.

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Re: New Australian WCh and Olympics track bikes

Postby stevenaaus » Sat Feb 29, 2020 3:52 pm

Sadly CA has no interest in World Championships
Hmm - not great results.
In the bronze medal final, Italy lapped previous world record holders Australia to take the bronze.
https://www.cyclingnews.com/races/uci-t ... 2/results/
And today, no one in the top 10 in the Men's Individual Pursuit.

Hell - it's only the UCI World Track Championships. :x
Maybe professional race commitments are a determining factor ?.

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Re: New Australian WCh and Olympics track bikes

Postby Derny Driver » Sat Feb 29, 2020 4:36 pm

stevenaaus wrote:
Sat Feb 29, 2020 3:52 pm
Sadly CA has no interest in World Championships
Hmm - not great results.
In the bronze medal final, Italy lapped previous world record holders Australia to take the bronze.
https://www.cyclingnews.com/races/uci-t ... 2/results/
And today, no one in the top 10 in the Men's Individual Pursuit.

Hell - it's only the UCI World Track Championships. :x
Maybe professional race commitments are a determining factor ?.
The Olympic pursuit team rode the Tour Down Under which shows they have no interest in results at the Worlds. You cant come off those sorts of road miles and then win gold at track worlds a few weeks later. Porter and Howard were struggling in the TP. Wouldnt surprise me if the Olympic TP team is Welsford, O'Brien, Scott and Plapp or Porter. Howard is more of a madison specialist.
Coach Decker is acting all surprised but the sly fox knows they were not in perfect condition. I have no doubt they will be right for Tokyo.

Since we lost Jordan Kirby to NZ we have not had an individual pursuit specialist. We've abandoned any hope there. Australia will be focused on the TP, scratch (Welsford), madison (Howard and O'Brien) and possibly Points race (Scott?) in Tokyo.

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Re: New Australian WCh and Olympics track bikes

Postby foo on patrol » Sat Feb 29, 2020 4:37 pm

There must be sompin wrong with me, I'd have a "World" Championship in a heart beat! :roll: I've said it before and I'll say it again The High Performance Coaching BS and their crap that they go on with is killing our sport! :evil:

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Re: New Australian WCh and Olympics track bikes

Postby stevenaaus » Sat Feb 29, 2020 6:50 pm

I'm sure most cyclists would agree and have plenty of motivation for the WChs.
But it getting new bikes one week in advance shows what the governing body's priorities are
- mass public and media adoration (and moolah) of gold medals. Irony is that Tokyo may be in doubt.
How good is it to see Gary Sutton training the USA girls to a Team Pursuit win and sticking it to that Pommy !! BAN ME NOW FOR SWEARING !! that sacked him
Tell us what you really think ! :)

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Re: New Australian WCh and Olympics track bikes

Postby foo on patrol » Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:35 am

Okay, I will. :)

:twisted: :evil: :P :twisted: :evil: :twisted: of idiots. :mrgreen:

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2020 medal talky

Postby stevenaaus » Tue Mar 03, 2020 3:37 am

Australia finished 11th out of 21 countries, with no gold medals.

:?: :oops: :evil:

https://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentral/a ... bout-tokyo
Jones brushed away speculation that the Olympics could be cancelled due to coronavirus.

“I’d rather have a corona beer than talk about the coronavirus,” he laughs. “Yes it is a really, really bad flu, but just everyone wash your hands.”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_UC ... mpionships

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Re: New Australian WCh and Olympics track bikes

Postby foo on patrol » Tue Mar 03, 2020 11:21 am

Jones is a bloody halwit! :twisted: He wasn't good enough for his own country, yet he came out here and sacked all of our best brains trust and wonders why, they failed. On a positive note, Gary Sutton has turned the USA girls around and he will continue to me the fool from Pommy Land pay! :idea:

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Re: New Australian WCh and Olympics track bikes

Postby Derny Driver » Tue Mar 03, 2020 5:51 pm

foo on patrol wrote:
Tue Mar 03, 2020 11:21 am
.. On a positive note, Gary Sutton has turned the USA girls around ...

Foo
Yep they won the Team pursuit and the Individual pursuit. Plus silver in points race.
Gary is the womens endurance coach.
Say no more :wink:

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Re: New Australian WCh and Olympics track bikes

Postby foo on patrol » Tue Mar 03, 2020 9:01 pm

Derny Driver wrote:
Tue Mar 03, 2020 5:51 pm
foo on patrol wrote:
Tue Mar 03, 2020 11:21 am
.. On a positive note, Gary Sutton has turned the USA girls around ...

Foo
Yep they won the Team pursuit and the Individual pursuit. Plus silver in points race.
Gary is the womens endurance coach.
Say no more :wink:
He's a bloody top bloke, with a brilliant mind for endurance racing. :wink: :mrgreen:

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Re: New Australian WCh and Olympics track bikes

Postby RobertL » Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:32 pm

foo on patrol wrote:
Tue Mar 03, 2020 9:01 pm
Derny Driver wrote:
Tue Mar 03, 2020 5:51 pm
foo on patrol wrote:
Tue Mar 03, 2020 11:21 am
.. On a positive note, Gary Sutton has turned the USA girls around ...

Foo
Yep they won the Team pursuit and the Individual pursuit. Plus silver in points race.
Gary is the womens endurance coach.
Say no more :wink:
He's a bloody top bloke, with a brilliant mind for endurance racing. :wink: :mrgreen:

Foo


He also had a young Chloe Dygert drop into his lap (so to speak). She's going to make any coach look good!

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