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Re: Cavendish Is Past His Prime
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 1:30 pm
by Mububban
Bit like Tiger or Jack Nicklaus winning the Masters when they'd been on a long dry spell. I love a sporting fairytale, and after watching Cav suffer on stage 1 I didn't know if he'd be able to recover. Maybe he was a knob when he was younger, but the only Cav I've seen in the last few years has been humble and appreciative of his teammates, so I'm very happy for him to get the 35th win. Finally his leadout clicked and he took full advantage.
Now....will he get any more?!?
Re: Cavendish Is Past His Prime
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 1:47 pm
by find_bruce
Derny Driver 2 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2024 12:45 pm
Would I be a conspiracy theorist if I suggested:
3. Buying a victory has happened before in cycling eg Reg Harris aged 54 beat Trevor Bull for the National Sprint Title in 1974
Not that Im suggesting that
That would be quite the pay off. I don't think Astana have the budget & I'm darn sure it wouldn't be coming out of Cav's pocket
Re: Cavendish Is Past His Prime
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 3:21 pm
by fat and old
You know, he's been doing a lot of call ins to the Armstrong podcast...........
Re: Cavendish Is Past His Prime
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 3:41 pm
by foo on patrol
fat and old wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2024 11:50 am
What's this bollocks?
Unless I'm mistaken, Cipollini never actually finished a TDF
I don't need to answer this as DD already has.
Foo
Re: Cavendish Is Past His Prime
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 3:43 pm
by foo on patrol
warthog1 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2024 12:18 pm
So what? The title of the thread is "Cavendish is Past his Prime"
It is about Cavendish who is a sprinter. A sprinter who has now won more TDF stages than anyone else ever.
He is past his best but he still got the job done. Those backing him are now justified in backing his decision to keep riding and so is he.
He is, past his prime!
The quality of the Sprinters there weren't top tier but as I said back somewhere, you can only beat those that are there.
Foo
Re: Cavendish Is Past His Prime
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 3:47 pm
by foo on patrol
Mububban wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2024 1:30 pm
Bit like Tiger or Jack Nicklaus winning the Masters when they'd been on a long dry spell. I love a sporting fairytale, and after watching Cav suffer on stage 1 I didn't know if he'd be able to recover. Maybe he was a knob when he was younger, but the only Cav I've seen in the last few years has been
humble and appreciative of his teammates, so I'm very happy for him to get the 35th win. Finally his leadout clicked and he took full advantage.
Now....will he get any more?!?
One real hard Stage that he made the cutoff by 9mins the the 3rd Stage was hard but he bailed out the back and had another cruisey one in and that yesterdays Stage was another flat joy ride, so he had time to recover a bit and the leadout Team got it right.
Yes, he seems a lot nicer bloke over the last couple of years.
Foo
Re: Cavendish Is Past His Prime
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 3:57 pm
by warthog1
He was towed to the line and any old punter could have done that then.
Suggest you watch it again Foo and take note of the 60+ kmh they were doing.
At least you stick to your guns, even if they are firing blanks
Re: Cavendish Is Past His Prime
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 5:13 pm
by fat and old
foo on patrol wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2024 3:43 pm
He is, past his prime!
The quality of the Sprinters there weren't top tier but as I said back somewhere, you can only beat those that are there.
Foo
Weren’t top tier??????? He outfoxed Philipsen, 4 stages inc. Champs last year. Put Ackerman to the torch. Mads Pederson fell over from the jet blast. Girmay, Groanawagon, Jackobson, De Lie….. who else is he supposed to beat? Even the car door holding cheese eating cheat Demare got dumped on.
You’re a hard man to impress Foo
Re: Cavendish Is Past His Prime
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 5:55 pm
by foo on patrol
fat and old wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2024 5:13 pm
foo on patrol wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2024 3:43 pm
He is, past his prime!
The quality of the Sprinters there weren't top tier but as I said back somewhere, you can only beat those that are there.
Foo
Weren’t top tier??????? He outfoxed Philipsen, 4 stages inc. Champs last year. Put Ackerman to the torch. Mads Pederson fell over from the jet blast. Girmay, Groanawagon, Jackobson, De Lie….. who else is he supposed to beat? Even the car door holding cheese eating cheat Demare got dumped on.
You’re a hard man to impress Foo
Yep.
He had the best position of the lot of them.
Foo
Re: Cavendish Is Past His Prime
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2024 10:02 am
by g-boaf
Yep, past his prime.. TdF stage win.
Good to see him get it.
Anyhow, I didn't watch any of it and am not watching the event.
Re: Cavendish Is Past His Prime
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2024 1:43 pm
by elantra
g-boaf wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 10:02 am
Yep, past his prime.. TdF stage win.
Good to see him get it.
Anyhow, I didn't watch any of it and am not watching the event.
So far…. This TDF has been a ripper.
Well the first 5 stages were anyway. Some exciting breakaways and picturesque settings.
Yesterday’s stage was a bit predictable.
And today’s TT stage is going to be a bit repetitive.
It will be interesting to see how Cav rides in the time trial. I can just imagine him mouthing to Vino - “do I really have to do that preposterous time trial ? Can’t I just get a tick in the box that says “done””
Re: Cavendish Is Past His Prime
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:39 am
by find_bruce
Another area where Cavendish's performance has dropped off - while he has a sook about his relegation in stage 12, it was nowhere near the performative levels of him at his prime
I don't think there's going to be a 36th stage win though with Morkov out - Cavendish has always needed a good leadout, not just speed but also tactical nowse to get him in a good position
Re: Cavendish Is Past His Prime
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:15 am
by MichaelB
find_bruce wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:39 am
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I don't think there's going to be a 36th stage win though with Morkov out - Cavendish has always needed a good leadout, not just speed but also tactical nowse to get him in a good position
Would agree with that 100%