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snedden9485 wrote:The KK doesnt shed any rubber at all

metal or plastic roller?

JV911 wrote:is this amount of tyre "marbles" normal & is there anything that can be done about it or am i just making too much tyre-shredding power???

G'day Jeremy,

I've recently bought the same trainer as you have...and I love it!
How long were you on the trainer to produce that amount of marbles?
I did a 30min session this morning and there were a few bits on the floor, but nothing like your photo.
Maybe I just need to HTFU and push harder?!

Matt

KK has a metal roller.

Mattsbike wrote:How long were you on the trainer to produce that amount of marbles?

4 x 70min sessions i reckon

Jeremy, I've been shredding my rear tyre that much on my trainer the last week as well!!

I was pretty worried that I'm doing something wrong with the setup of the bike in the trainer - too close to the roller perhaps? Really unsure

It sucks to have that much crap to clean up all the time as well.

the feedback i got was to adjust the roller so that it sits hard (harder) up against the tyre. previously i had the roller just touching the tyre and it was probably spinning (spinning as in doing a burnout )

JV911 wrote:the feedback i got was to adjust the roller so that it sits hard (harder) up against the tyre. previously i had the roller just touching the tyre and it was probably spinning (spinning as in doing a burnout )

Thanks JV, will give it a go tomorrow during the two hours of power planned

JV911 wrote:

JV911 wrote:I’ve just pulled the trigger and bought a CycleOps Fluid 2 Trainer. Under $300 delivered from the UK. Also got a Conti Trainer tyre

G'day

Interesting thread. JV is this the model you got?



Also is anyone using a flat bar on their trainer? Any reason why it wouldn't be a good idea or much worse than using a road bike?

Thanks
Andrew

Aushiker wrote:

JV911 wrote:

JV911 wrote:I’ve just pulled the trigger and bought a CycleOps Fluid 2 Trainer. Under $300 delivered from the UK. Also got a Conti Trainer tyre

G'day

Interesting thread. JV is this the model you got?

http://www.this link is broken/images/cycleops ... vd-med.jpg

Also is anyone using a flat bar on their trainer? Any reason why it wouldn't be a good idea or much worse than using a road bike?

Thanks
Andrew

I cant see any differences really if the bike has 700C wheels. Only difference would be the riding position i guess. I just use my training bike in the trainer.

Aushiker wrote:Interesting thread. JV is this the model you got?

yep thats the one

no reason not to use a flat bar

Tried out the trainer again today with JV's suggested adjustment - ALL BETTER!

the only thing I was worred about was the self inflicted pain

trainers, what are the benefits? ... being able to do a MAP test.Whether that is a good thing or not depends on the person but today is the first ever time I have hit my max HR on a mag trainer!.

toolonglegs wrote:trainers, what are the benefits? ... being able to do a MAP test.Whether that is a good thing or not depends on the person but today is the first ever time I have hit my max HR on a mag trainer!.

Congrats!

Personally, I can't do MAPs indoors, at least, not on my trainer. I tried, but the MAP score didn't correlate at all with my interval wattage. So I do mine outside now
Can't hit the same max HR on my trainer that I've done at the labs at university, whether that's because my mates are yelling at me at uni, or because they have better gear [autobraked/watts controlled SRM], I don't know.

Rain jacket, overshoes, gilet. Maybe armwarmers. That's all the Perth winters demand.

Ant. wrote:

toolonglegs wrote:Rain jacket, overshoes, gilet. Maybe armwarmers. That's all the Perth winters demand.

What at lunch time in your building? Didn't see a roadie out this morning in the wet It was bloody cold too riding up the coast from Fremantle.

Andrew

Ant. wrote:

toolonglegs wrote:trainers, what are the benefits? ... being able to do a MAP test.Whether that is a good thing or not depends on the person but today is the first ever time I have hit my max HR on a mag trainer!.

Congrats!

Personally, I can't do MAPs indoors, at least, not on my trainer. I tried, but the MAP score didn't correlate at all with my interval wattage. So I do mine outside now
Can't hit the same max HR on my trainer that I've done at the labs at university, whether that's because my mates are yelling at me at uni, or because they have better gear [autobraked/watts controlled SRM], I don't know.

Rain jacket, overshoes, gilet. Maybe armwarmers. That's all the Perth winters demand.

Must be difficult to do it outdoors?.
Actually I think I pulled the pin a few seconds early now ...probably only had another 10seconds (if that) in me but I was very suprised to see 190bpm...I have only seen that one other time this year in a race!...can't wait for the next one .

AllDan wrote:the only thing I was worred about was the self inflicted pain

re the adjustment...its a fine line between too loose and shredding the tyre & too tight and not being able to turn the frikken pedals!

esp when you try a leg-melting spinervals mega hill session dvd for the 1st time

toolonglegs wrote:

Ant. wrote:

toolonglegs wrote:trainers, what are the benefits? ... being able to do a MAP test.Whether that is a good thing or not depends on the person but today is the first ever time I have hit my max HR on a mag trainer!.

Congrats!

Personally, I can't do MAPs indoors, at least, not on my trainer. I tried, but the MAP score didn't correlate at all with my interval wattage. So I do mine outside now
Can't hit the same max HR on my trainer that I've done at the labs at university, whether that's because my mates are yelling at me at uni, or because they have better gear [autobraked/watts controlled SRM], I don't know.

Rain jacket, overshoes, gilet. Maybe armwarmers. That's all the Perth winters demand.

Must be difficult to do it outdoors?.
Actually I think I pulled the pin a few seconds early now ...probably only had another 10seconds (if that) in me but I was very suprised to see 190bpm...I have only seen that one other time this year in a race!...can't wait for the next one .

Well it wasn't easy, almost fell off when I pulled the pin , but indoor training is something I just can't do.

Post map-test syndrome: believing we could've held on for another 10 or more seconds happens to everyone! My (only, and current) outdoor one, I pulled the pin when a truck came rushing past at 90kph, and me, fighting a crosswind, getting interrupted by his slipstream, wow, just wow. It was a freezing cold day, with heavy rain [no wet weather gear on], with gusty cross winds. I lost my mojo when he roared past. Maybe I had another 10 more seconds in me too Reality is though, an extra 10secs might give you a handful more watts, but ZR-Z3 will barely be different, and intervals are based on what you've done before.

JV911 wrote:

AllDan wrote:the only thing I was worred about was the self inflicted pain

re the adjustment...its a fine line between too loose and shredding the tyre & too tight and not being able to turn the frikken pedals!

esp when you try a leg-melting spinervals mega hill session dvd for the 1st time

Def wasn't too tight. I could turn the pedals pretty well - the 53-12 was hard work but it's supposed to be I guess.
You're right about the spinervals DVDs though, something in me definitely twigged when the title was "mental toughness"

On the plus side though my cruising speed is up and my weight is down, so it's paying off quite nicely