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Re: Road Wheelsets - What are my Options?
Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2024 6:34 pm
by Mr Purple
I suspect some spacers will disappear with the next bike fit - still coming back from 7 broken bones so not hitting my usual position yet.
Agreed on the rego, I’ll hopefully replace it with an outside pic tomorrow.
Re: Road Wheelsets - What are my Options?
Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2024 8:09 pm
by g-boaf
Mr Purple wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2024 5:46 pm
blizzard wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2024 4:04 pm
I saw the Strava pics, great looking bike, would a Defy have fit you better?
No, the TCR was about perfect, bike fitter saw no issues. First ride was like slipping into an old pair of shoes, which was weird for something this fast. And it's fast!
Indoor pictures only unfortunately due to the weather.
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Downloaded the appropriate app, calibrated the PM, waxed the chain and all good to go. Expect torrential weather tomorrow.
That looks quite nice! Sounds like you got a great bike there especially if it feels right immediately.
Yep, right on cue, Sydney has a wet weekend as well.
Re: Road Wheelsets - What are my Options?
Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2024 11:26 pm
by ningnangnong
Looks like a beauty Mr. P!
Nothing better than hopping on the bike and it just 'feels right' instantly.
Re: Road Wheelsets - What are my Options?
Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2024 8:56 am
by Mr Purple
ningnangnong wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2024 11:26 pm
Looks like a beauty Mr. P!
Nothing better than hoping on the bike and it just 'feels right' instantly.
Thanks! Though now I'm lookin at it and thinking 'too many spacers'.
Will give it a few months and then do a proper bike fit.
Unfortunately confined to the garage today, bit wet and I'm stuck at dance concerts all day (kids).
Re: Road Wheelsets - What are my Options?
Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2024 9:39 am
by Retrobyte
Does look great, Mr P! Good to see something new in a colourway that's not mostly black
Re: Road Wheelsets - What are my Options?
Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2024 6:41 pm
by Mr Purple
Yeah, ok. This thing’s mental and everyone raving about aero was right.
Did a 6:18 Cootha Front this afternoon with about 30W less than what it used to take me. Then rode home along the V1 Veloway at an average 36km/hr with a casual 220W. It just sits effortlessly in the high 30’s.
Very happy!
Re: Road Wheelsets - What are my Options?
Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2024 6:50 pm
by blizzard
Mr Purple wrote: ↑Sat Dec 07, 2024 6:41 pm
Yeah, ok. This thing’s mental and everyone raving about aero was right.
Did a 6:18 Cootha Front this afternoon with about 30W less than what it used to take me. Then rode home along the V1 Veloway at an average 36km/hr with a casual 220W. It just sits effortlessly in the high 30’s.
Very happy!
The scary thing is the TCR isn't a particularly aero bike either.
Now imagine it with faster tyres
Re: Road Wheelsets - What are my Options?
Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2024 7:17 pm
by Mr Purple
I’m beginning to suspect the Focus was a brick.
Yep. Another 4W saved on GP5000s.
Re: Road Wheelsets - What are my Options?
Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2024 3:39 pm
by AndrewCowley
Mr Purple wrote: ↑Sat Dec 07, 2024 6:41 pm
Yeah, ok. This thing’s mental and everyone raving about aero was right.
Did a 6:18 Cootha Front this afternoon with about 30W less than what it used to take me. Then rode home along the V1 Veloway at an average 36km/hr with a casual 220W. It just sits effortlessly in the high 30’s.
Very interesting!
Re: Road Wheelsets - What are my Options?
Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2024 4:20 pm
by Mr Purple
To give you an idea my Cootha Front PB on the Focus was 5:57@380W with a solid tailwind and largely standing.
The TCR was all of 22 seconds slower with 63W less, mainly seated and a crosswind. Effortless.
The only problem is I took my mechanical gravel bike for a ride today and it feels awful now. Three rides with Di2 and I need it on everything.
Re: Road Wheelsets - What are my Options?
Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2024 4:22 pm
by AndrewCowley
Mr Purple wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2024 4:20 pm
To give you an idea my Cootha Front PB on the Focus was 5:57@380W with a solid tailwind and largely standing.
The TCR was all of 22 seconds slower with 63W less, mainly seated and a crosswind. Effortless.
The only problem is I took my mechanical gravel bike for a ride today and it feels awful now. Three rides with Di2 and I need it on everything.
Is that going uphill?
Re: Road Wheelsets - What are my Options?
Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2024 6:01 pm
by jasonc
Mr Purple wrote: ↑ Three rides with Di2 and I need it on everything.
Is this where I say "I told you so"
Re: Road Wheelsets - What are my Options?
Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2024 6:49 pm
by Mr Purple
AndrewCowley wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2024 4:22 pm
Is that going uphill?
2.1km/7.2% so yes!
Unlike Cootha Back (2.2km/9.2%) it does level out in the middle and finish though. My Cootha Back wasn’t quite so spectacular on it, but that was me, not the bike.
Re: Road Wheelsets - What are my Options?
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:27 am
by g-boaf
jasonc wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2024 6:01 pm
Mr Purple wrote: ↑ Three rides with Di2 and I need it on everything.
Is this where I say "I told you so"
Everyone says "don't need electronic gearing" until they get it and then they change tune.
Re: Road Wheelsets - What are my Options?
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:50 am
by jasonc
g-boaf wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:27 am
jasonc wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2024 6:01 pm
Mr Purple wrote: ↑ Three rides with Di2 and I need it on everything.
Is this where I say "I told you so"
Everyone says "don't need electronic gearing" until they get it and then they change tune.
it's why I even upgraded my checkpoint to Di2.
Re: Road Wheelsets - What are my Options?
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:43 am
by Mr Purple
g-boaf wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:27 am
Everyone says "don't need electronic gearing" until they get it and then they change tune.
You'd think I'd have learned by now.
'I don't need disc brakes'. Ok, wow.
'I don't need carbon wheels.' Ok, wow.
'I don't need tubeless'. Ok, wow.
'I don't need Di2'. Ok, wow.
The problem comes in getting off the Kickr Shift with Di2, and the TCR with Di2 and hopping onto the Checkpoint now. It immediately feels broken and wrong.
It is stupid to spend another $1500 upgrading an ALR5 Checkpoint to Di2, but I don't think I'll be allowed to buy a new bike for a few years now so I might do it anyway.
Re: Road Wheelsets - What are my Options?
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2024 11:40 am
by jasonc
didn't we work out the ALR frame isn't di2 compatible? Unsure how, but from memory it may be difficult to mount a battery somewhere. so you'll just have to buy a new frame to go with the di2
Re: Road Wheelsets - What are my Options?
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2024 11:54 am
by Mr Purple
jasonc wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2024 11:40 am
didn't we work out the ALR frame isn't di2 compatible? Unsure how, but from memory it may be difficult to mount a battery somewhere. so you'll just have to buy a new frame to go with the di2
Honestly, it's probably not worth it anyway.
I've got enough aftermarket stuff on this frame (seatpost, saddle, wheels, bars) and a spare 48/31 crankset - I should probably just spring for a new frame at some stage, upgrade to Di2 and revert the bike back to stock and sell it.
Most of the gravel options with Di2 GRX want big money new, that'd actually be a reasonably cheap way of doing it.
Re: Road Wheelsets - What are my Options?
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2024 12:09 pm
by jasonc
Mr Purple wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2024 11:54 am
Most of the gravel options with Di2 GRX want big money new, that'd actually be a reasonably cheap way of doing it.
When I was looking there was a significant difference between GRX and GRX Di2. I bought the checkpoint for $4k. bought an 8070 di2 groupset for $1k (sold the power meter crank, then bought GRX Di2 derailleurs)
Now I've bought carbon gravel wheels for ~$1150
I sold the GRX derailleurs and shifters
Pretty sure I'm well ahead of a standard spec GRX Di2 bike (with 2x)
https://www.canyon.com/en-au/gravel-bik ... /4327.html
Re: Road Wheelsets - What are my Options?
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2024 12:44 pm
by Mr Purple
Yep, from what I could see that's about the price for a base model 2X Di2 gravel bike.
The GRX Di2 groupset sans crank is about $1600 new so comparable with 105 Di2 now. As you said the limiting factor may be the frameset, I think I'll just wait until n+1 is acceptable again (may be late next year).
Re: Road Wheelsets - What are my Options?
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2024 12:48 pm
by warthog1
Mr Purple wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2024 12:44 pm
Yep, from what I could see that's about the price for a base model 2X Di2 gravel bike.
The GRX Di2 groupset sans crank is about $1600 new so comparable with 105 Di2 now. As you said the limiting factor may be the frameset, I think I'll just wait until n+1 is acceptable again (may be late next year).
Is that 12 speed?
Must admit having used it I am now a big fan too.
It is heaps better.
Re: Road Wheelsets - What are my Options?
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2024 1:07 pm
by 2wheels_mond
Mr Purple wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:43 am
You'd think I'd have learned by now.
'I don't need disc brakes'. Ok, wow.
'I don't need carbon wheels.' Ok, wow.
'I don't need tubeless'. Ok, wow.
'I don't need Di2'. Ok, wow.
Add a power meter to this and I've gone through the same process. Did all of these on the road bike and have now just gone through the same process on the gravel bike in doing a custom build - and am much happier to have all the same tech on the gravel bike as I do on the road bike.
Re: Road Wheelsets - What are my Options?
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2024 1:20 pm
by jasonc
don't worry - we sorted Mr Purple out with a power meter a couple of years ago
Re: Road Wheelsets - What are my Options?
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2024 1:21 pm
by warthog1
Mr Purple wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2024 10:43 am
g-boaf wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:27 am
Everyone says "don't need electronic gearing" until they get it and then they change tune.
You'd think I'd have learned by now.
'I don't need disc brakes'. Ok, wow.
'I don't need carbon wheels.' Ok, wow.
'I don't need tubeless'. Ok, wow.
'I don't need Di2'. Ok, wow.
The problem comes in getting off the Kickr Shift with Di2, and the TCR with Di2 and hopping onto the Checkpoint now. It immediately feels broken and wrong.
It is stupid to spend another $1500 upgrading an ALR5 Checkpoint to Di2, but I don't think I'll be allowed to buy a new bike for a few years now so I might do it anyway.
Missed that post. True
Re: Road Wheelsets - What are my Options?
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2024 2:06 pm
by g-boaf
jasonc wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2024 1:20 pm
don't worry - we sorted Mr Purple out with a power meter a couple of years ago
Lol!
Not getting a new wheelset but do want to upgrade the Xentis rear wheel to this hub:
https://www.dtswiss.com/en/components/h ... s-road/180
It got serviced recently but it's on the way out.