Diet Thread

[am50em]

He is doing only a little cycling and running. Most of his activities were in the gym prioritising muscle gain plus he enjoys it more. To be clear he is after longer health span as opposed to pure longevity. Reducing alcohol and nicotine, eating more fruit and vegetable, reducing processed food, aiming for better sleep and exercising, I would think he is on a good path to reach his goal (certainly compared to his previous lifestyle after finishing competitive cycling).

[Nobody]

Consuming animal products, alcohol, extra protein, overtly high fat foods, processed foods, and supplements are not going to lead to a longer health span. If his previous existance was worse than the current, it still doesn't make what he is doing now worthy of immitation. But unfortunately there will be no shortage of people deceived by it.

[Nobody]

A reminder about industry funded research.

[Nobody]

These are about ground spices and contaminants. Mainly lead. He claims some may be deliberately added. He has warned about teas in the past too in regard to doing more harm than good. I suppose it's better to be over-cautious than in trouble later. Especially people like me with liver problems.

Even though these are plant based, I though the warning should go to a wider reader base.

[Nobody]

When driving, I often listen to the ABC's health segments, which can be also heard online. Below are two recent ones I found interesting.

Do people really live longer in 'Blue Zones'?
Due to pension fraud in poor countries - which most are - it appears that the age data can't be trusted.
Loma Linda (CA, USA) vegan Adventists are the only blue zone where the age data can be trusted apparently.

Why Norman won't shut up about the Mediterranean diet
Too much hype around this diet IMO. Since studies have shown a low fat, whole food, plant only diet easily outperforms the Mediterranean diet for health. I think a lot of it is wishful thinking on the part of many that think they can "have their cake and eat it too" by eating a lot of fat in olive oil and fatty fish and still have a low bodyweight and be heatlhy. But nonetheless some interesting commentary. My understanding was the original Mediterranean diet was from a 1950s Sicilian diet, where they were poor and so it was mainly a starch and vegetable diet. That seems to differ from what Norman is saying.

[Nobody]

Keeping a longer overnight fast and eating an early breakfast may be associated with a lower body mass index - Science Daily


No surprise. This is what I generally practice and currently have a morning clothed BMI of around 21. So ideal weight for height at 56 y.o. What I eat makes more difference, but this seems to help.

[Nobody]

May be good for a chuckle.

From one study, I saw the upper limit for people who want to gain muscle through weight training is 1.4 g/kg of body weight (BW). The standard amount - according to the WHO - is considered to be 0.83 g/kg BW, which has a large safety margin built in. Almost everyone who gets enough energy intake easily gets enough protein. You'd have to try to get too little protein. Even I get over 1g/kg BW per day without eating any higher protein foods like meat, dairy, beans, nuts, seeds, or grains. Since I'm trying to keep my protein and fat low to help limit tumour growth (as they can raise MTOR and IGF-1).

As implied in the video, protein supplements are a scam IMO. They just load one's kidneys and liver to remove the excess. So - like many foods - people are paying money to do themselves harm.

[Nobody]

Schools in Mexico have six months to ban junk food sales or face heavy fines - The Guardian

Authorities say about one-third of Mexico’s children are overweight or obese.

Just behind US children at 35%. Incidently the same source (NIH from 2018) says that US adult overweitght was/is 73% with 42% of those being obese.
https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-inform ... ht-obesity

AU children are at 26%.

A survey of more than 10,000 schools carried out between 2023 and 2024 found that junk food was available in 98% of them, with sugary drinks in 95% and soft drinks in 79%. Ads for junk food were found in 25% of schools.

Looks to be a good move by the government since the schools - or vendors they allow access to - are placing profit before morals. But then if one wants to be judgemental, one could say that about any business knowingly selling unhealthy food to anyone.

Knowing what I do about diet, I wouldn't be involved or invest in any company that sells food. Which is ironic considering my family was involved in both lamb farming and restaurants when I was growing up. So I've been directly supported by those businesses. I'm obviously more principled, than loyal.

[Nobody]

Why Are People Quitting Keto And Carnivore Diets? - PBN

[Nobody]

As can be seen - and no surprise - fish oil harms human health.

I'll add that I don't agree with Roger's criticism of Greger in this video when saying that Greger would want to praise fish oil. Greger and Rogers differ when it comes to plant fat intake, but Greger is not a supporter of animal products of any kind.

[Nobody]

If you strip it all back, the two videos below are all one needs to know to reverse their type 2 diabetes symptoms. In other words, follow the advice and in a matter of weeks you could likely pass a glucose tolerance test.





I'm taking the advice above to the extreme at the moment. Not because I have insulin resistance problems, but because I have tumours and I'm seeing if very low fat is of benefit in my blood tests coming up. In the video Cyrus says to keep total daily fat below 30g. Which is about 15% of typical energy intake. The lower the better. Mine is currently 7g/d and has been generally for months.

[Nobody]

Fasting, eating earlier in the day or eating fewer meals – what works best for weight loss? - The Conversation

Recommendations:

You might consider

- aiming to eat in an eight-hour window
- consuming your calories earlier, by focusing on breakfast and lunch
- opting for three meals a day, instead of six.

The article also mentions that the average adult puts on 0.4 to 0.7 kg per year. If you click on its link, the study is for middle aged women. However I think the numbers given apply fairly well for the whole AU population. Those numbers are probably going to get worse with a higher percentage of total energy being from processed foods, year on year.

[Nobody]

6 things to do if your child’s weight is beyond the ideal range – and 1 thing to avoid - The Conversation


Seems like reasonable advice to me.

It would have been nice if my parents had known something about good nutrition. But in the '70s, good nutrition as we know it today was only for tie-dyed freaks. Back then the animal food industries still had the population largely brainwashed.

- Breakfast was often some sugary cereal with full fat milk.
White bread toast with butter/marg and some combination of fat, sugar and/or salt on it.
Bacon and eggs.
We didn't know back then that even the yeast extract spreads like Vegemite - who everyone thought was healthy - was a source of a brain excitotoxin called manufactured free glutamate (MFG), similar to MSG. It's' thought to contribute to dementia.

- Luch was white bread sandwiches with butter/marg, processed meat, possibly cheese and something else like boiled egg, baked beans, etc. Maybe a small box of sultanas to take as well to school.

- Dinner was typically meat and veg. And you sat at the table (sometimes for hours) until you finished it. Maybe followed by dessert of ice cream.

- Drinks were usually sugar ladened artificial flavoured and coloured cordials. Or flavoured milk.

- Snacks were typically biscuits of various types.

To be honest, I'm surprised we grew up as normal as we did, despite our diet. But dad didn't fair so well as he was getting mini strokes from his 40s onward. Before I was 20 y.o. he was already not confident with his driving. About that time he had an risky operation to clean out his carotid arteries. Likely some of the reasons why I have an interest in diet and I post on these forums. To help get the message out that there are dietary choices which can largely avoid these types of suffering from many chronic illness.