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Our local Dominos uses a legitimate looking e-bike for their deliveries. Very clearly marked as 'Dominos' with a pizza carrier on the back.

Except I saw their teenage delivery driver riding 60km/hr+ along our very flat street yesterday, lazily turning the pedals over.

Pretty bad when a major company just completely ignores the law.

Mr Purple wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 01, 2024 11:01 am

Our local Dominos uses a legitimate looking e-bike for their deliveries. Very clearly marked as 'Dominos' with a pizza carrier on the back.

Except I saw their teenage delivery driver riding 60km/hr+ along our very flat street yesterday, lazily turning the pedals over.

Pretty bad when a major company just completely ignores the law.

Time is money

Pretty sure 'teenage delivery rider being killed because you supplied them with a highly illegal e-bike' is also money.

Big risk legally.

Mr Purple wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 01, 2024 1:48 pm

Pretty sure 'teenage delivery rider being killed because you supplied them with a highly illegal e-bike' is also money.

Big risk legally.

but not to Dominoes - believe most outlets are franchised so pretty sure Dominoes would point the finger at the legal owner(s) of the franchised business with Dominoes' lawyers explaining that all franchisees sign up to operate with in the law

Mr Purple wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 01, 2024 1:48 pm

Pretty sure 'teenage delivery rider being killed because you supplied them with a highly illegal e-bike' is also money.

Big risk legally.

Yup, and as I understand it (from a couple of years back) the official Domino's policy is that all their 'fleet' of supplied e-bikes will be totally legal. However, what the local shops or riders do to 'adjust' the legality of the local bikes - who knows....

But you are right, the crap will hit the fan when one of the 'hot' delivery riders kills/injures himself or another person while riding a supplied e-bike. Watch the lawyers and insurance companies leap into action.

Richard

they haven't gone after uber eats yet. slightly different scenario

What the???
Maybe only in Scotland.....

E-scooter fitted with exercise bike seized by police

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx24891nz3jo.amp

Today's Sun Herald reports that NSW will soon have laws passed to allow e-scooters on "dedicated bike paths" as long as the rider is wearing a helmet and is over 16yo

Mr Purple wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 01, 2024 11:01 am

Our local Dominos uses a legitimate looking e-bike for their deliveries. Very clearly marked as 'Dominos' with a pizza carrier on the back.

Except I saw their teenage delivery driver riding 60km/hr+ along our very flat street yesterday, lazily turning the pedals over.

Pretty bad when a major company just completely ignores the law.

The other day, at one of those generic shopping centres on the outskirts of Brisbane, I noticed a Pizza outlet (as you do at dinner time )

I honestly cannot remember what “chain” it was, so not sure if it was Dominoes or not.

But what I did notice was a lineup of e-bicycles on a bicycle rack outside.
They were the “old” style of utilitarian e-bicycles with cranks, pedals, a long wheelbase and carrier rack on the back. They appeared to be a bit rusty, a bit cobweby and a bit… unused !

Beside them was a solitary newer, bigger, fat-tyred machine with a more rudimentary “crank and pedals”
And beside was a few empty parking spaces, presumably for the “newer” machines.

I would guess that the “newer” machines are more down the spectrum toward e-motorcycles

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-05/ ... /104526862

shock horror. no consistency of laws. no enforcement of laws. it's the wild west.

jasonc wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 05, 2024 8:44 am

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-05/ ... /104526862

shock horror. no consistency of laws. no enforcement of laws. it's the wild west.

You’d think that in a big country like Australia with a very mobile population and a fairly strong national ethos that traffic/driving/licensing laws would be a NATIONAL prerogative.

And should have been taken away from being a State Government responsibility YEARS ago !!!
(Perhaps like Health Care should be taken away from the States, because they consistently and ruthlessly cost-shift to Canberra)

It is a real eye-opener to the incompetence that results from a disorganised disaster* response, typical of what happens when multiple layers of government* are involved.

*using the word “disaster” loosely to describe an emerging issue of some significance.
And using the word “government” also loosely to describe an appointed bureaucracy that has a mandate to find solutions to such emerging issues.

I’d better shut up before I start advocating for the abolition of the states.