Re: Stoves and Cookwear
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:08 pm
and bananasil padrone wrote:Cheaper than ScotchPawPaw wrote:Suppose I'll just keep using shellite, though it sucks they charge $5/litre.
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and bananasil padrone wrote:Cheaper than ScotchPawPaw wrote:Suppose I'll just keep using shellite, though it sucks they charge $5/litre.
Hi PawPaw,PawPaw wrote:thx riffraff. was aware of the crap in unleaded, but it still appears to be used commonly by trekkers globally, and motorbike campers.
I presumed if I kept my head 3 feet upwind from the flame, and used a wok, contamination of the food and me would be minimal.
The Coleman Peak One doesn't have alternative jets for different fuels. I still have the box and instruction sheet. Great product, though heavi-ish.
AFAIK, white spirit = shellite = Coleman fuel, and is amongst the lightest and cleanest product of the fractionation process.
Suppose I'll just keep using shellite, though it sucks they charge $5/litre.
When I bought my Peak One (1979ish), I did a lot of research....The MSR Whisperlite was the duck's nuts then amongst trekkers and mountaineers, but it was about 4x the price of the Peak, which I couldn't justify.rifraf wrote:The Peak One does have a good following though and I came across many satisfied customers in my travels.
My cookware for the Optimus is my well worn, currently 15 year old, stainless Peak 1 set of four small pots that fit inside each other.
Thats how seriously I looked at purchasing one of their stoves.
Ron tell me those Chefsway meals arnt $17.76 each for dogs sakeRonK wrote:My favourite Chefsway dehydrated meals are not the rehydrate in the pouch type, and have to be simmered in 700ml of water I find the Chefsway (from Tasmania) products very palatable and their low packed weight and small size makes it easy to carry a weeks supply without resorting to a trailer. The spag bol is my favourite, but my wife loves the mushroom risotto. I alway buy the double serve size and find it's an adequate serving for two and a very generous serving for one, but just what I need after a long day on the bike or hike.
BTW, I reckon it's a myth that freeze-died meals are expensive - if you cost the ingredients and the time it takes to prepare and dry your own meals there is not much difference.
Funny thing about meals. I prefer putting a bit in to get a meal that tastes pretty good and has less 'cardboard' quality to it.PawPaw wrote:Funny you mention all those pots. I only ever took one, but I mainly bushwalked solo or with 1-2 others. Mainly used on dried meals and caffeine.
I'd like to get my hands on some new breed US and Australian Army rations. They apparently cook in the pack when you break a seal or something, so no need for a stove.
Hi AndrewAushiker wrote:Hi
I have just got back from four days riding
Andrew
Yep. Melbourne Bicycle Touring Club - we run 1-3 rides per weekend, usually 1-2 camping tours per month and regular longer tours, especially Christmas, Easter and Melbourne Cup Day weekend. In one week I'm off to Tasmania with a group of 14 others to spend almost 3 weeks cycling across the Central Plateau and up the east coast. Bush camps and fully-supported touring are a passion for many of our members.rifraf wrote:From your regular pics and posts IP,
it sounds like you belong to a great group that has a lot of
"get out there"
I'm sure the enthusiasm is contagious.
Yesrifraf wrote:Did you take your new stove?
Very well given I didn't follow the instructions Seriously impressed with it and I suspect used properly will do even better. 15 ml of meths to boil 300 ml and 20 ml to boil 600 ml. I averaged 68 ml of meths per day so happy with that.How did it perform and what culinary delights did you whip up?
Solo. No Club here that really tours and whilst I have done tours with others I do like the flexibility/at my pace of solo touring. That said Cavebear was considering coming.Solo ride or did you take company?
$10.77 each at Pinnacle Sports.rifraf wrote:Ron tell me those Chefsway meals arnt $17.76 each for dogs sake
Thanks for the pointer Andrew.Aushiker wrote:$10.77 each at Pinnacle Sports.rifraf wrote:Ron tell me those Chefsway meals arnt $17.76 each for dogs sake
Andrew
Nah, never paid that much for them...$10-12 is the usual. I think that price is for a double serve.rifraf wrote:Ron tell me those Chefsway meals arnt $17.76 each for dogs sake
Hi Ron,RonK wrote:Nah, never paid that much for them...$10-12 is the usual. I think that price is for a double serve.rifraf wrote:Ron tell me those Chefsway meals arnt $17.76 each for dogs sake
I always start a tour with a couple of these meals in my tucker bag.
Other food favorites are Deb with Onions, Ainsley Herriots instant couscous and risotto, asian laksa cup of soup, Uncle Tobys instant oats gourmet selections, Safcol salmon or tuna pouches, laughing cow cheese wedges, salami, Vita Wheat, powdered milk, and Williamsons earl grey tea. These selections result from the rationisation of my load over many long bushwalks. They are foods that I find palatable, satiate my hunger and satisfy my energy requirements, are easy to pack and carry, and consume minimal fuel for preparation. These are the supplies I'd be taking when I tour to a remote place, otherwise I resupply daily where there are shops enroute.
rifraf wrote:What is Deb with onions?
Deb instant mashed potatos - the staple food of high altitude mountaineers. There is nothing quite like Deb to put a warm lump in your stomach when you've endured a cold and exhausting day, your appetite has gone, and all you want to do is crawl into your sleeping bag and pass out. Along with couscous it makes excellent emergency rations.rifraf wrote:What is Deb with onions?
Plenty of sugar is exactly what I want before setting out on a days cycling or walking. Two satchets is my normal breakfast, with tea.rifraf wrote:The Uncle Toby's oat sachets I've had but not keen on the sugar content - will take some for a tour though.
Ordinary rice is too much trouble but look around the supermarket and you'll find a plethora of quick to cook rice dishes. These days I prefer couscous and Anslie's risotto. Cheap, light, quick preparation and filling - high in energy too.rifraf wrote:I must trial the Trangia to see how to best deal with rice.
Yes- you can even get a variety pack.Baalzamon wrote:Those uncle toby oat satchels are what I took on my last tour for a bit of variety.
Well - for breakfast number 1 at least.Baalzamon wrote:They became my mainstay breakfast and I'm too having 2 satchels.
A small packet of Deb is a generous meal for one - use half a pack if it's a supplement to another dish. Oil or margarine may be added but is not necessary , and I don't bother out on the road.rifraf wrote:Thank you Andrew.
I dont recall ever coming across instant "mash" before.
I'll have to put it on my "to do" list
If you want quick, easy and tasty, try the 'Taste of India' Bombay Potatoes. Pack serves two (ONE cyclist) and takes just 5 mins to boil in the pack Mmmm!RonK wrote:Ordinary rice is too much trouble but look around the supermarket and you'll find a plethora of quick to cook rice dishes. These days I prefer couscous and Anslie's risotto. Cheap, light, quick preparation and filling - high in energy too.rifraf wrote:I must trial the Trangia to see how to best deal with rice.
Amazing how two different cycletourists, in widely seperated parts of the country can come up with such similar food choices I use nearly all of these foods as well, although I go for a nice King Island double brie cheese for appetiser and Bega/Mainland Cheddar for sandwiches, now use Indian roti bread for trips where I'm away from bakeries, and I've got over the DebRonK wrote:Other food favorites are Deb with Onions, Ainsley Herriots instant couscous and risotto, asian laksa cup of soup, Uncle Tobys instant oats gourmet selections, Safcol salmon or tuna pouches, laughing cow cheese wedges, salami, Vita Wheat, powdered milk, and Williamsons earl grey tea.
Hmmm - good tip IP. Looking at the Tasty Bite web page they have quite a selection that would bear some further investigation, and an online store. The downside is that they are not dry food so are heavy to carry in quantity, but a couple of packets wouldn't weigh down the tuckerbag much.il padrone wrote:If you want quick, easy and tasty, try the 'Taste of India' Bombay Potatoes. Pack serves two (ONE cyclist) and takes just 5 mins to boil in the pack Mmmm!
Yes, I only tried Mountain Bread once...... . Was sadly disappointed - wafer thin, hard to spread and falls apart. Roti bread and naan bread, available in many supermarkets in sealed packs, is much better and generally keeps for quite a long time. Roti bread with peanut butter has a real 'satay' quality to it.RonK wrote:I've also tried some flat bread (mountain bread) but it didn't keep very well - kinda disintegrated after a few days. But there is a much better offering of flat breads available now so another look at them could also be worthwhile
How many days are you carrying the cheese for? I have bee a bit wary about fridge sourced products given I can be carrying it up to two weeks.il padrone wrote:Bega/Mainland Cheddar for sandwiches
I Do not know what the fire rules are in other states but here in WA none of the camping stoves available can be used when the rating for the day is "Very High" or above.rifraf wrote:Thought I'd get in before anyone else to request the knowledge of what everyones using to
get the billy boiled and dinner on the way.
I've been using my Optimus 111C since Christ played halfback for the Israelites and then some.
My latest move back to Aus has shown I've forgotten to pack my alternate fuel nipples
so I'll have to get onto that so I can once again start using metho in it.
Back in NZ Kero is the cheaper fuel of choice.
I do prefer the metho as it doesnt stink your pack out long term if theres a spill.