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Re: New road bike. What's your desire ?
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 9:36 pm
by Warnesy
Oh yeah, that's a nice looking bike. Custom built Aussie bike, stuck in my head as well...
Re: New road bike. What's your desire ?
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:59 am
by g-boaf
Colnago C64 in "frozen" colour scheme:
https://www.facebook.com/pedalspotmy/po ... 598460495/
That's a lovely looking thing but heavens is it expensive! $7.2K as a frameset.
Re: New road bike. What's your desire ?
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:23 am
by 10speedsemiracer
Nah... Let it go
Re: New road bike. What's your desire ?
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:36 am
by Warnesy
This just came out. Looks like good bang for the buck.
https://wilier.com/en/my2021/world/raci ... ilier-0-sl
Re: New road bike. What's your desire ?
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:26 pm
by Mububban
That jockey wheel is the same size as the cassette!
Cool paint job though
Re: New road bike. What's your desire ?
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:54 pm
by warthog1
Mububban wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:26 pm
That jockey wheel is the same size as the cassette!
Cool paint job though
I'm liking the wheels.
I know disc wheels require more spokes and have a crossed pattern to deal with braking forces imposed at the hub.
They have tended to be a bit ugly to my eye.
That G3 spoke pattern looks great and is the most elegant disc brake spoking I have seen.
Re: New road bike. What's your desire ?
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:10 pm
by g-boaf
Mububban wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:26 pm
That jockey wheel is the same size as the cassette!
Cool paint job though
Ceramicspeed OSPW I think. I’ve seen them but never used them on a derailleur. My bike has some Kogel ceramic pulley wheels - but they are normal size. They spin so easily.
Compared to the standard SRAM ones, those SRAM ones may as well have had glue in them. Crazy difference!
It is a beautiful bike though, it did catch my eye.
Re: New road bike. What's your desire ?
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:43 am
by Ross
If money was no object then an SL6 S-Works Tarmac (don't like the look of the latest crossbreed SL7 Tarmac/Venge thing, plus it's slightly) heavierwith disc brakes and Di2. Maybe a custom paint job too
Re: New road bike. What's your desire ?
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:01 pm
by g-boaf
Cervelo S5 Sunweb
SRAM Red E-Tap 12 speed
Not a desire.
Re: New road bike. What's your desire ?
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:14 pm
by warthog1
Agreed. I have an old S5 team in black. I still like it. Not a fan of the new goers. There are a few here. Doesn't look better in Sunweb colours.
A Giant Propel Advanced Pro 0 in red would do me.
Re: New road bike. What's your desire ?
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:41 pm
by g-boaf
warthog1 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:14 pm
Agreed. I have an old S5 team in black. I still like it. Not a fan of the new goers. There are a few here. Doesn't look better in Sunweb colours.
A Giant Propel Advanced Pro 0 in red would do me.
No no, look closely - that’s my saddle and my Garmin.
It's brand new.
It's a tiny bit lower on the front than my Canyon CF Evo, but otherwise the fit is nearly identical. It's a fat thing, 7.82kg.
Re: New road bike. What's your desire ?
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:02 pm
by warthog1
g-boaf wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:41 pm
warthog1 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:14 pm
Agreed. I have an old S5 team in black. I still like it. Not a fan of the new goers. There are a few here. Doesn't look better in Sunweb colours.
A Giant Propel Advanced Pro 0 in red would do me.
No no, look closely - that’s my saddle and my Garmin.
It's brand new.
It's a tiny bit lower on the front than my Canyon CF Evo, but otherwise the fit is nearly identical. It's a fat thing, 7.82kg.
Oops sorry.
I am sure it rides very well.
A bloke I ride with occasionally sold his propel and bought an S5.
Not my cup of tea with the handlebar/stem set-up but he likes it.
They are fast.
Re: New road bike. What's your desire ?
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:10 pm
by g-boaf
warthog1 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:02 pm
g-boaf wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:41 pm
warthog1 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:14 pm
Agreed. I have an old S5 team in black. I still like it. Not a fan of the new goers. There are a few here. Doesn't look better in Sunweb colours.
A Giant Propel Advanced Pro 0 in red would do me.
No no, look closely - that’s my saddle and my Garmin.
It's brand new.
It's a tiny bit lower on the front than my Canyon CF Evo, but otherwise the fit is nearly identical. It's a fat thing, 7.82kg.
Oops sorry.
I am sure it rides very well.
A bloke I ride with occasionally sold his propel and bought an S5.
Not my cup of tea with the handlebar/stem set-up but he likes it.
They are fast.
Hey, it's no trouble - bikes are personal things.
I've had my eye on the S5 for a while. At first I whinged when it was disc only - but that was when it was new. Now the time was right (and the price too). I've always liked the very clean and somewhat science-fiction look of the new S5.
I've seen this particular Sunweb style S5 before in a small size frame with a fast rider on it. Our little group of four moved along extremely fast that day.
Re: New road bike. What's your desire ?
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:15 pm
by warthog1
g-boaf wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:10 pm
Hey, it's no trouble - bikes are personal things.
I've had my eye on the S5 for a while. At first I whinged when it was disc only - but that was when it was new. Now the time was right (and the price too). I've always liked the very clean and somewhat science-fiction look of the new S5.
I've seen this particular Sunweb style S5 before in a small size frame with a fast rider on it. Our little group of four moved along extremely fast that day.
Enjoy
Re: New road bike. What's your desire ?
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:46 am
by g-boaf
warthog1 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:15 pm
Enjoy
I rode just over 80km on that bike today, it is very fast. It's like a TT bike on flat sections and downhill. I don't have a power meter on it yet so I don't know what power I was putting out and maybe I also had quite fresh legs from two days of no riding, but it does really fly. It was damp conditions today as well and the stopping ability is great. It corners well too.
Unfortunately going uphill isn't so great - you can't hide that it is around 1.4kg heavier than my other bike.
Re: New road bike. What's your desire ?
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:20 pm
by MichaelB
Looks good. Enjoy !!
Re: New road bike. What's your desire ?
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:00 pm
by g-boaf
MichaelB wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:20 pm
Looks good. Enjoy !!
Now I begin learning all the idiosyncrasies of disc brakes. Now they are dialed in I'm loving them.
Re: New road bike. What's your desire ?
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:39 pm
by hamishm
CyclingTips Tech podcast had a good episode on misses in bike tech. The trend for proprietary everything (cockpits and seat posts) and all the different press fit bottom brackets all got a good roasting.
https://cyclingtips.com/2020/09/nerd-al ... dont-love/
Re: New road bike. What's your desire ?
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:48 pm
by g-boaf
What's nice is that some third parties are solving these bottom bracket irritations, press fit bottom brackets that screw together (BBInfinite, WheelsMFG) for instance. The S5 I got a few days ago I was initially wary about, I was particularly wary of the stem/handlebar setup, but it's actually adjustable and the brake lines don't go through the bars themselves, just in a recessed section underneath the bar, that's a better way compared to the old P5.
CyclingTips should also offer an alternative to the podcast for people who don't want to listen to the podcast.
Re: New road bike. What's your desire ?
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:51 pm
by 10speedsemiracer
Re: New road bike. What's your desire ?
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:01 pm
by hamishm
The latest horror show seems to be brake lines running through the steerer tube. Looks great, hard to work on and the hose is probably wearing down your steerer tube from the inside until one day you die.
Re: New road bike. What's your desire ?
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:16 pm
by biker jk
hamishm wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:01 pm
The latest horror show seems to be brake lines running through the steerer tube. Looks great, hard to work on and the hose is probably wearing down your steerer tube from the inside until one day you die.
One crazy design I saw was taking some of the space from the fork steerer (not oversize) for the cables which then required a metal insert to strengthen the fork steerer. All so the cables could be hidden.
Re: New road bike. What's your desire ?
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:11 pm
by warthog1
g-boaf wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:46 am
warthog1 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:15 pm
Enjoy
I rode just over 80km on that bike today, it is very fast. It's like a TT bike on flat sections and downhill. I don't have a power meter on it yet so I don't know what power I was putting out and maybe I also had quite fresh legs from two days of no riding, but it does really fly. It was damp conditions today as well and the stopping ability is great. It corners well too.
Unfortunately going uphill isn't so great - you can't hide that it is around 1.4kg heavier than my other bike.
Glad it is going well and you like the brakes.
Re: New road bike. What's your desire ?
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:16 pm
by hamishm
g-boaf wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:48 pm
CyclingTips should also offer an alternative to the podcast for people who don't want to listen to the podcast.
They have tons of written material, news and reviews and opinion, and the podcasts complement that nicely. I don’t listen to all of them, nor all of every episode, but it’s good for passing the time on the trainer.
The main podcast is weekly, plus there’s the fortnightly tech podcast and a fortnightly podcast in women’s racing. Also the regular “from the top” interview series (haven’t listened to these myself). The news podcast has been discontinued, the daily news is now written only.
Re: New road bike. What's your desire ?
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:06 pm
by MichaelB
g-boaf wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:00 pm
MichaelB wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:20 pm
Looks good. Enjoy !!
Now I begin learning all the idiosyncrasies of disc brakes. Now they are dialed in I'm loving them.
Shhhhhh! Don’t tell anyone