Tubeless roadbike tyres

[Mr Purple]

Most tyres have a line running the full way around the tyre just above the bead, you can check that the gap from the rim to the line is even all the way around to give confidence that its seated correctly... I've had issues on my MTB where the tyres didn't seat fully in one area.

I've been caught on that one before, so it's the first thing I check!

Yep. Completely even all the way around. I can only assume the fit is just so linear and tight that there isn't any drama when you bead them up for the first time. Haven't leaked a bit either.

Still it wasn't as reassuring as the loud 'pop'!

[Mr Purple]

Do not recommend the Goodyear Eagle F1 for spirited riding. Rolling resistance is about 6W more than the GP5000TRs I've been riding and you do feel it.

Grip and air retention is excellent and they are very supple in comparison though. Probably shouldn't have put them on before the 130km charity ride on Sunday.

[Mr Purple]

Third puncture in 12,000km of road tubeless today.

Simply hit too big a pothole. As in diabolically big - 30cm across and hidden in the shadow and I was doing 45km/hr or so. Front Goodyear pretty much exploded, no sealing that one.

Wasn't really enjoying their ridiculous rolling resistance anyway so I'll put a GP5000 back on.

[warthog1]

Did the wheel survive?
Good strong wheel if so.

[Mr Purple]

Did the wheel survive?
Good strong wheel if so.

Wheel is absolutely fine.

Very impressed by that Light Bicycle 45mm/DT350 combo. They’ve had a tough life, 23,000km in and still going strong.

New GP5000TR on today. Straight on, popped into place and 6W faster. Not sure I’ll bother with any other road tyre now!

[warthog1]

Wheel is absolutely fine.

Very impressed by that Light Bicycle 45mm/DT350 combo. They’ve had a tough life, 23,000km in and still going strong.

New GP5000TR on today. Straight on, popped into place and 6W faster. Not sure I’ll bother with any other road tyre now!

Great wheels!

[blizzard]

Bike bug has a sale on Pirelli 20% off using Flash20. Makes the P Zero Race $80.

[warthog1]

Spotted this on another forum. I have a storage tank compressor that will run a spray gun so haven't needed this but it sounds handy. The presenter loves it anyway.

[foo on patrol]

Never seen a high pressure tyre sit flat on a rim like that or is that how these tubless things sit first up?

Foo

[warthog1]

No not really. That is an expensive handmade goer that is apparently hard to seat. It is a challenge tyre. I have used a challenge getaway pro in a 40 that did that. Have another still sitting in the drawer.
The tyre seated with a track pump using the tape which is impressive.

[MichaelB]

Whilst I'm happy so far with my Continental GP Urban 35c tyres (actually 33mm) for the commuter, these tyres may be REALLY interesting

https://www.bikebug.com/schwalbe-pro-on ... ding-tyre/

BRR will have the test upcoming soon - I'll post a link.

Price in Germany is Euro 46 each (about A$75/tyre without shipping), so much better value that $130 ea here

[foo on patrol]

No not really. That is an expensive handmade goer that is apparently hard to seat. It is a challenge tyre. I have used a challenge getaway pro in a 40 that did that. Have another still sitting in the drawer.
The tyre seated with a track pump using the tape which is impressive.

Arh okay.

Foo

[blizzard]

Changed out my front GP5000TL after about 10,000km for a Vittoria Corsa TLR I bought in January 2022. The wear inductors still showed some life but time to try something different.

My technique is lacking, it took me 1 hour to change the one tyre, I really struggled to get the old tyre off. Got the new one on ok, the bead jack worked wonders, but was hard to seat the beads, I had to hit it with the air shot 4 time before it seated all the way round.

[warthog1]

Changed out my front GP5000TL after about 10,000km for a Vittoria Corsa TLR I bought in January 2022. The wear inductors still showed some life but time to try something different.

My technique is lacking, it took me 1 hour to change the one tyre, I really struggled to get the old tyre off. Got the new one on ok, the bead jack worked wonders, but was hard to seat the beads, I had to hit it with the air shot 4 time before it seated all the way round.

5kTL were tight.
Did you try the tape around the tyre as per that video up the page?
4 shots and I'd have given it a go

[blizzard]

I didn't try the tape trick. 3/4 of the bead seated on the first shot, it was just one stubborn area that needed some coaxing with extra soapy water and more shots.

[blizzard]

Put the rear Corsa 28c on today. Much quicker process, seated first time. Added the sealant and then put the wheel back on the bike in the work stand and there was a rattle inside the rim Cue sucking the sealant out and then removing the tyre and valve, and shaking the rim to get whatever was stuck our of the valve hole. Then remount everything... What a pain.

Tyres are nice, can't really tell if they are more supple then the Gp5000, also not immediately slower feeling after one ride.

[warthog1]

I am liking the Schwalbe pro one tlr. They have been a reasonable price at ccache so I got a couple more.
28 and 30.
https://ccache.cc/collections/road-tyre ... addix-race
I can run the 28 on the front of my hookless WR50 if I want and have one on there at the moment. I base that off Light Bicycle approving that size prior to the ETRTO change. Zipp still approves the 28 schwalbe fpr their 25mm wide int hookless too.
Only running ~ 60psi at each end. That is all they need at my 77kg with the wide rim giving them more volume.
May eventually chuck at 30 on the front WR too, but being a front I dont expect the 28 will wear out anytime soon.
Taken the 25s off the wheels that came on my Reacto. Reynolds AR60DB. 28 Schwalbe at each end.

[Mr Purple]

I like the Schwalbe with tubes so will have to give those a shot at some stage.

I swear the Continental 5000TR dry out sealant faster than the other tubeless options (maybe more porous?). I'm actually drying out sealant faster than I'm wearing through tyres which is unusual for me, and a bit annoying.

I've just ordered a couple of the P Zero Race TLR with Speedcore because they're about the same price and apparently more puncture resistant and have better wet grip. Slightly more RR (2W or so) but we'll see.

The good news is I'm getting well over 1500km with every tubeless rear tyre now with the exception of the Vittoria Corsa NEXT TLR (800km or so with those). So I'm either riding smoother or tubeless are indeed more resistant to wear.

[warthog1]

Possibly better traction.
Are the tyres bigger and running lower pressure?
If so, bigger tyres at a lower pressure, so bigger footprint and less microskipping over road imperfections as you smash out those KOMs.

[Mr Purple]

Still running 25/26mm because that’s all my frame will take. Well allegedly it will take 28mm but I tried that and it punctured a sidewall within 30km.

60PSI though makes all the difference. I suspect the Victoria Corsa are just fragile - everything else seems to get twice the mileage.

[MichaelB]

Whilst I'm happy so far with my Continental GP Urban 35c tyres (actually 33mm) for the commuter, these tyres may be REALLY interesting

https://www.bikebug.com/schwalbe-pro-on ... ding-tyre/

BRR will have the test upcoming soon - I'll post a link.

Price in Germany is Euro 46 each (about A$75/tyre without shipping), so much better value that $130 ea here

Test now done on BRR

https://www.bicyclerollingresistance.co ... one-tle-38

If you're looking for a 38/40 mm road bike tire, your choices are limited, and the Schwalbe Pro One TLE will probably be at the top of your list. The 38 mm version of the Pro One performs similarly to the 32 and 34 mm versions we tested last year. We see some subtle differences, like a thicker tread, which we see more often on the bigger versions of the same tire.

Our wet grip tests again show that the Schwalbe Pro One has a dual compound rubber with a harder compound in the middle and a softer compound along the edge. The result of this dual compound is that the overall wet grip is lower than most comparable tires due to the relatively low grip of the center compound, while the edge grip tests show decent results. The 38 mm version seems to grip a bit less than the 32 and 34 mm versions, and we think it's because the hard center part is a bit wider on this size.

We rate the 38 mm version higher than the 32 and 34 mm versions simply because it's one of the few road bike tires available in the 38 mm version. For a tire of this size, it is simply one of the fastest on the market.

RATING: 4.3 / 5
TEST VERDICT: Highly Recommended

[warthog1]

It rolls well at low pressure.
Seems like a good optiin if you are after a road tyre that size.
I use them in 28 and 30mm and very happy thus far.

[MichaelB]

It rolls well at low pressure.
Seems like a good optiin if you are after a road tyre that size.
I use them in 28 and 30mm and very happy thus far.

They are a potential option (well that size anyway) for the commuter. Have plenty of clearance, but have to wear through the current tyres and the next set 1st ....

[kilroy]

During a brief trial of TPU tubes, I had my first flat the other day. A small slither of metal through a very small hole in the tyre. Promptly went back to tubeless when I got home. I had difficulty getting the GP5000’s to seat properly the first time round, but they were fine this time. I think the soapy water trick helped a lot. Also gone back to a small pump rather than CO2. Gives me a bit more confidence when I’m 20km out of town on my ride.

[warthog1]

I haven't tried tpu tubes. Not interested in tubes full stop now. I read the Black Cat Award thread the other day and it read like an advert for tubeless. So many punctures would not have occured had they been tubeless it appears to me.
I had a tubeless tyre a couple of years back that was slowly leaking overnight.
Decided to have a closer look. Two pieces of radial car tyre wire in it. Pulled them out reinflated and went for a ride. Nothing else required until the tyre wore out.