Mt Coot-tha training

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Re: Mt Coot-tha training

Postby jasonc » Wed Jun 12, 2024 6:38 pm

Mr Purple wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2024 9:31 am
jasonc wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2024 8:16 am
headwind going up coot-tha this morning was unappreciated
It's been nasty. Any time there's a notable headwind on an average 9% climb you know it's significant!

Makes a huge difference to my times, can add a good 20-30 seconds if it's blowing at the wrong angle.
Felt the headwind on the first one so just took it easy today. Hopefully Friday is nicer

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Re: Mt Coot-tha training

Postby jasonc » Fri Jun 14, 2024 8:12 am

there's glass between 1/3 and 1/2 way down the slip lane going down the front

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Re: Mt Coot-tha training

Postby jasonc » Wed Jun 19, 2024 11:49 am

back burning on coot-tha. the smoke is unpleasant on the lungs

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Re: Mt Coot-tha training

Postby Mr Purple » Fri Jun 21, 2024 10:29 am

jasonc wrote:
Wed Jun 19, 2024 11:49 am
back burning on coot-tha. the smoke is unpleasant on the lungs
Seemed to have cleared today.

Tried something different today and simply had '3 second power' rather than my usual segment data including estimated time.

Worked well for maximizing segment power (355W today). Not so well for the actual time (8:16). Mind you there was a headwind again and being colder air density makes a surprising difference. According to Bikecalculator the difference with that power up Cootha back between 25 degrees and 10 degrees is 7.2 seconds. That's remarkable.

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Re: Mt Coot-tha training

Postby jasonc » Fri Jun 28, 2024 8:18 pm

https://open.spotify.com/episode/5tyDJFvr3dcL1JWE6QtQPF

The backside podcast. Thename is a homage to the coot-tha back climb. They are suggesting we should be using a different segment as our yardstick. It's called "the backside"

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Re: Mt Coot-tha training

Postby Mr Purple » Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:53 am

jasonc wrote:
Fri Jun 28, 2024 8:18 pm
https://open.spotify.com/episode/5tyDJFvr3dcL1JWE6QtQPF

The backside podcast. Thename is a homage to the coot-tha back climb. They are suggesting we should be using a different segment as our yardstick. It's called "the backside"
Apparently I have 7:52/382W for that one - faster than half the guys on the podcast which surprised me!

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Re: Mt Coot-tha training

Postby bwdftp » Thu Jul 11, 2024 1:17 pm

jasonc wrote:
Fri Jun 28, 2024 8:18 pm
https://open.spotify.com/episode/5tyDJFvr3dcL1JWE6QtQPF

The backside podcast. Thename is a homage to the coot-tha back climb. They are suggesting we should be using a different segment as our yardstick. It's called "the backside"
I've been saying this for years - it's much closer to the full climb!
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Re: Mt Coot-tha training

Postby Mr Purple » Thu Jul 11, 2024 1:31 pm

bwdftp wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2024 1:17 pm
jasonc wrote:
Fri Jun 28, 2024 8:18 pm
https://open.spotify.com/episode/5tyDJFvr3dcL1JWE6QtQPF

The backside podcast. Thename is a homage to the coot-tha back climb. They are suggesting we should be using a different segment as our yardstick. It's called "the backside"
I've been saying this for years - it's much closer to the full climb!
So is it true you don't carry a water bottle? I'm enjoying the podcast but aren't sure how much of it is just in jokes!

You know you've made it when you've been mentioned specifically on the podcast. I don't think I'll ever get there, except maybe in a 'look how slow this guy is for a given power and ridiculous HR because he does the whole thing standing' sort of way.

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Re: Mt Coot-tha training

Postby Mr Purple » Fri Jul 19, 2024 3:17 pm

Highest power since March of last year this morning, 359W unfortunately wasted into some dense (cold) air and a solid headwind in an 8:11.

3 seconds off the 'Poddy' segment glory for the week, though someone will no doubt reset that by Monday. Weirdly averaged 362W over that longer segment.

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Re: Mt Coot-tha training

Postby Mr Purple » Thu Jul 25, 2024 12:47 pm

Little 'twang' on standing on the pedals at the base of the mountain today.

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Still managed a 7:57/361W into a gentle headwind. Fastest for me since October last year.

Inevitably the local Team Bridgelane rider did a 6:49. So I'm not even the fastest person in my street today.

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Re: Mt Coot-tha training

Postby jasonc » Fri Jul 26, 2024 8:19 am

coot-tha back number 1600 this morning

edit: the smell of smoke on the climb is just about gone

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Re: Mt Coot-tha training

Postby bwdftp » Fri Jul 26, 2024 2:40 pm

jasonc wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2024 8:19 am
coot-tha back number 1600 this morning

edit: the smell of smoke on the climb is just about gone
Good consistency Jas. 2000 is only a couple of solid years away.
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Re: Mt Coot-tha training

Postby jasonc » Fri Jul 26, 2024 5:11 pm

bwdftp wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2024 2:40 pm
jasonc wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2024 8:19 am
coot-tha back number 1600 this morning

edit: the smell of smoke on the climb is just about gone
Good consistency Jas. 2000 is only a couple of solid years away.
Thanks bwd. If only they were getting easier

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Re: Mt Coot-tha training

Postby Mr Purple » Thu Aug 01, 2024 5:59 pm

Well, I've officially achieved internet glory by being mentioned on the Backside Poddy as the third fastest for the week. Must have been a slow week.

Also got a comment about the ridiculous heart rate and how they'd like to do that time with only 361W which is nice.

No more climbing for me, can't beat that. Endless river loops from now on.

Time to take the tool kit off and try to knock a few more seconds off.

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Re: Mt Coot-tha training

Postby jasonc » Thu Aug 01, 2024 6:35 pm

I'm about 3 weeks behind on that pod cast. But kudos. I know I won't get mentioned. Slow, fat and old isn't worth talking about it

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Re: Mt Coot-tha training

Postby Mr Purple » Thu Aug 01, 2024 7:14 pm

Mate, your persistence deserves it alone! I think you have about ten times as many Coothas as I do.

Failing that they do have a ‘slowest of the week’. Full kudos to some of the guys doing it in 24 minutes. That is seriously impressive.

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Re: Mt Coot-tha training

Postby jasonc » Thu Aug 01, 2024 8:39 pm

24 minutes? Ouch
I remember once getting a puncture just after the 2000m mark. I was on track for sub 10. Tyre went straight down. Can't remember what I did that day

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Re: Mt Coot-tha training

Postby Mr Purple » Fri Aug 02, 2024 10:27 am

Nasty up there this morning, probably should have worn sleeves.

Second highest power for me with 363W. Not particularly fast though. I blame the dense air and westerly. Probably doing the first kilometre at 404W average for 3:01 was not particularly clever either, but some dude passed me on a Dogma on the flat bits near JC Slaughter and needed to be discouraged from giving chase.

Some idiot has written off their AMG Mercedes into the armco in the first 500m. No idea how they've managed it - skid marks coming downhill and straight into the barrier. Mind the descent, there's a lot of front end damage to the car and oil all over the road.

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Re: Mt Coot-tha training

Postby jasonc » Fri Aug 02, 2024 10:56 am

saw that car. looked fresh. plenty of what i hope was coolant over the road. decent hit of the barrier

and the temperature descending was not pleasant on the face

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Re: Mt Coot-tha training

Postby Mr Purple » Fri Aug 02, 2024 12:42 pm

The driver has made a real mess of it. I only caught a glimpse of the wreck but it seemed to be an A45/A35 AMG variant so FWD biased AWD.

You could see the skid marks indicating he lost it heading downhill on one of the right handers. The speed required to manage that in a decent performance car would be absolutely massive, and I suspect you'd also need every driver aid including traction control switched off. It's gone head first into the armco and indented it a good 50-60cm so it would have hurt.

Just glad it was probably overnight with no cyclists around.

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Re: Mt Coot-tha training

Postby jasonc » Fri Aug 02, 2024 12:48 pm

looked like a sedan to me so maybe CLA45

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Re: Mt Coot-tha training

Postby Mr Purple » Sun Aug 04, 2024 5:26 pm

Embarrassingly it seems I’m fastest overall this week on the longer podcast segment.

Honestly the actual fast guys must have been taking it easy! Probably not worth wasting energy into a cold headwind.

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Re: Mt Coot-tha training

Postby jasonc » Sun Aug 04, 2024 5:49 pm

Congrats Mr Purple
Also remember there was smoke a few days that isn't nice on the lungs

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Re: Mt Coot-tha training

Postby Mr Purple » Mon Aug 05, 2024 8:25 am

jasonc wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2024 5:49 pm
Congrats Mr Purple
Also remember there was smoke a few days that isn't nice on the lungs
I suspect it's just that conditions were bad enough that no-one else was keen to give it a real crack. There's probably 50+ riders in Brisbane capable of doing a faster time than me.

Though it was 6W/kg on the dot for an 8:14 which was a second all time PB for me so I'm happy enough. 180bpm average which was actually a little down on usual, I imagine because it was so cold.

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Re: Mt Coot-tha training

Postby warthog1 » Mon Aug 05, 2024 8:59 am

Great power Mr P! 8)
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