Another reason to peel or wash produce. Because even if they don't come in plastic bags, the shop produce bags should have the same chemicals.
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Re: Diet Thread
Postby Nobody » Tue Apr 16, 2024 6:41 am
Virtually free academic benefits, just by choosing healthier foods for breakfast. For private schools that have an interest in higher student grades to promote their business success. They may benefit from investing in dietary education and even providing breakfast.
Our research suggests eating an unhealthy breakfast could have a similar effect on your child’s school day as having nothing at all - The Conversation
Our research suggests eating an unhealthy breakfast could have a similar effect on your child’s school day as having nothing at all - The Conversation
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Re: Diet Thread
Postby Nobody » Sat Apr 27, 2024 8:26 am
‘Unsustainable’: UK predicted to see 50% spike in strokes by 2035 - The Guardian
At the end of the article it says:
What I find interesting is they briefly mention smoking, lack of exercise and salt intake in the article. But no mention specifically on diet quality, processed foods, animal products, or high fat diets in their contribution to the problem. So since diet is the biggest driver for stroke - including high salt intake - I think they're going to struggle to reduce the projected number much.
My father died this week from the results of two large haemorrhagic strokes from at least one fall. He was 84 years old. But had dementia problems to the point of needing care for the last 2 years, likely from ischemic mini strokes he had suffered for the latter half of his life. He enjoyed eating animal products and I couldn't convince him to change for the most part. The only change I know about being to alternative plant milks. My genetic father also had at least 3 ischemic strokes during his life.
At the end of the article it says:
“We are also taking action to encourage better lifestyle choices, including creating a smoke-free generation and reducing salt intake through food to help prevent the risk of strokes.”
What I find interesting is they briefly mention smoking, lack of exercise and salt intake in the article. But no mention specifically on diet quality, processed foods, animal products, or high fat diets in their contribution to the problem. So since diet is the biggest driver for stroke - including high salt intake - I think they're going to struggle to reduce the projected number much.
My father died this week from the results of two large haemorrhagic strokes from at least one fall. He was 84 years old. But had dementia problems to the point of needing care for the last 2 years, likely from ischemic mini strokes he had suffered for the latter half of his life. He enjoyed eating animal products and I couldn't convince him to change for the most part. The only change I know about being to alternative plant milks. My genetic father also had at least 3 ischemic strokes during his life.
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Re: Diet Thread
Postby Nobody » Sun Apr 28, 2024 8:35 pm
A 4min 39sec ABC podcast on different low carb diets in relation to long term weight gain.
Not all low-carb diets are equal—or even healthy
It reinforced my belief that we all should be conversing about foods that make up a diet, rather than macronutrient ratios - which is reductionist thinking. It should be obvious that the food type/quality that makes up one's diet matters more than what the macronutrient ratio is. Which should be no surprise to regular readers, but apparently isn't to the average person from the conversations I've had. One can mess up any macronutrient ratio with poor enough choices.
Having said that, I still believe the typical healthy human diet - pre industrial revolution - was mainly grains and veg. That diet - to get reductionist again - would have been higher carb, lower fat and lower protein than the standard Australian diet. The original mediterranean diet was considered to be the average Sicilian diet from the 1950s when it was a poor country with basic plant foods mainly eaten. Primarily a vegetarian diet with a small amount of fish or other animal products. Not the same as what is typically called a mediterranean diet today.
A study on Sicilian centenarians
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3412743/
So what is the ideal human diet? The WHO is working on that and is expected to have an answer in 2026. It will be interesting to see what they come up with. But from previous WHO efforts, I don't expect it to be the absolute best diet for optimum health. Since I don't expect many would accept what may be required for optimum health. We'll see...
Not all low-carb diets are equal—or even healthy
It reinforced my belief that we all should be conversing about foods that make up a diet, rather than macronutrient ratios - which is reductionist thinking. It should be obvious that the food type/quality that makes up one's diet matters more than what the macronutrient ratio is. Which should be no surprise to regular readers, but apparently isn't to the average person from the conversations I've had. One can mess up any macronutrient ratio with poor enough choices.
Having said that, I still believe the typical healthy human diet - pre industrial revolution - was mainly grains and veg. That diet - to get reductionist again - would have been higher carb, lower fat and lower protein than the standard Australian diet. The original mediterranean diet was considered to be the average Sicilian diet from the 1950s when it was a poor country with basic plant foods mainly eaten. Primarily a vegetarian diet with a small amount of fish or other animal products. Not the same as what is typically called a mediterranean diet today.
A study on Sicilian centenarians
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3412743/
So what is the ideal human diet? The WHO is working on that and is expected to have an answer in 2026. It will be interesting to see what they come up with. But from previous WHO efforts, I don't expect it to be the absolute best diet for optimum health. Since I don't expect many would accept what may be required for optimum health. We'll see...
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Re: Diet Thread
Postby baabaa » Mon Apr 29, 2024 6:34 pm
So what is the ideal human diet?
A few things on the environmental, social, ethics and then public health issues which float around that whole "diet" for humans which are are worth a read and listen to...
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Meet the meatfluencers
https://one.npr.org/?sharedMediaId=1244 ... 1244043545
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The Illogical Relationship Americans Have With Animals
A new book explores the roots of our love for certain creatures—and our indifference toward many others. April 18, 2024 American society has a confused, contradictory relationship with animals. Many dog owners have no compunction about eating feedlot-raised pigs, animals whose intelligence, sociality, and sentience compare favorably with their shih tzus and beagles. Some cat lovers let their outdoor felines contribute to mass bird murder. A pescatarian might claim that a cod is less capable of
Read in The Atlantic: https://apple.news/ApwYLa9oYQq2qfDz-HoYPHg
and with the new bird flu strain
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Feeding Broiler Litter to Beef Cattle - Alabama Cooperative Extension System
https://www.aces.edu/blog/topics/beef/f ... ef-cattle/
And then something of a big Say What and could be the next covid 19...
https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1 ... 0928421111
and to sum up
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U.S. Meat Lobby Celebrates ‘Positive Outcome’ of COP28
https://www.desmog.com/2024/04/08/us-me ... ome-cop28/
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Re: Diet Thread
Postby Nobody » Sat May 04, 2024 4:54 pm
baabaa wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 6:34 pmSo what is the ideal human diet?
A few things on the environmental, social, ethics and then public health issues which float around that whole "diet" for humans which are are worth a read and listen to...
The environment should be a no-brainer, but the meat industry lobby are doing their best to keep themselves afloat. Typically like most industry bodies, they really only care about maintaining - or ideally increasing - industry profits.
Social probably has a lot to do with tradition. People don't like change or others being different, regardless of the health implications. I think there has been a small amount of change. But it will probably take decades for societal acceptance to significantly change. It took many decades for smoking to be ostracised, and that was because it was affecting other people's health.
Ethics and business often are like forces pushing in opposite directions. As in It's harder to be successful in business ethically IMO.
Public health seems to only really matter when peoples' health detriments are costing the governments more that the offending industries are giving them in taxes. Governments appear to be doing a cost/benefit analysis on this. Cynical view on my part. But that's how I see it from their lack of action in most countries.
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