Insurance / westcycle membership

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Insurance / westcycle membership

Postby Condor_Italia » Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:33 pm

So I have bicycle insurance through velosure, is it worth taking out a westcycle membership?

I think they do liability insurance

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Re: Insurance / westcycle membership

Postby Thoglette » Mon Jun 05, 2023 4:38 pm

Condor_Italia wrote:
Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:33 pm
I think they do liability insurance
They've a few different offerings but one includes liability insurance: that's the biggie for me. If I center punch someone's new Merc it could get expensive quickly.

And then there's the issue of accidents that aren't on a "roadway" and may note be covered by the WA government liability insurance. (IANAL but the wording on the wa.gov.au site is pretty vague around this)
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Re: Insurance / westcycle membership

Postby trailgumby » Mon Jun 05, 2023 8:30 pm

Supporting Westcycle with your membership also helps support speaking truth to power in government in a way that localised volunteer advocacy can never match. Much of what happens locally is driven by what happens at State policy level. Having full-time people available during business hours for government meetings has a disproportionate impact.

Examples from NSW (my patch) include
1: the rewrite of the cycling facilities cookbook referenced by local councils to pick up current and developing best practice, a majpr achievement of which was killing off the dreaded door zone "murder strip"
2: TfNSW's Road User Space Allocation policy, which puts walking and cycling first and private motor vehicles last in order of consideration.

Without those two major policy shifts, into which BNSW had major input behind the scenes, we'd still be battling a car-brained policy framework that maintains the private motor vehicle as the apex predator on our roads. Now, we still have to fight insurgencies at the local level, but we at least have a fighting chance.

Please support your local state's advocacy org.

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Re: Insurance / westcycle membership

Postby g-boaf » Sat Jun 10, 2023 3:08 pm

trailgumby wrote:
Mon Jun 05, 2023 8:30 pm
Examples from NSW (my patch) include
1: the rewrite of the cycling facilities cookbook referenced by local councils to pick up current and developing best practice, a major achievement of which was killing off the dreaded door zone "murder strip"
2: TfNSW's Road User Space Allocation policy, which puts walking and cycling first and private motor vehicles last in order of consideration.
These two are major things in getting more people riding right now, although the advocates of a certain three letter cycling related policy will disagree.
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Re: Insurance / westcycle membership

Postby Thoglette » Sun Jun 11, 2023 1:44 pm

trailgumby wrote:
Mon Jun 05, 2023 8:30 pm
Supporting Westcycle with your membership also helps support speaking truth to power in government in a way that localised volunteer advocacy can never match.
Now, the BTA used to do that.

Westcycle? Not a chance. They're a sporting organisation, on one side enamoured with the UCI/IOC/&tc and on the other busy running "cyclo sportifs" on public roads.

Still, at least they're here.
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Re: Insurance / westcycle membership

Postby trailgumby » Wed Jun 14, 2023 8:14 am

Thoglette wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 1:44 pm
trailgumby wrote:
Mon Jun 05, 2023 8:30 pm
Supporting Westcycle with your membership also helps support speaking truth to power in government in a way that localised volunteer advocacy can never match.
Now, the BTA used to do that.

Westcycle? Not a chance. They're a sporting organisation, on one side enamoured with the UCI/IOC/&tc and on the other busy running "cyclo sportifs" on public roads.

Still, at least they're here.

Who fills the state-level advocacy role there now for non-competitive riders?

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Re: Insurance / westcycle membership

Postby Thoglette » Wed Jun 14, 2023 9:13 pm

trailgumby wrote:
Wed Jun 14, 2023 8:14 am
Who fills the state-level advocacy role there now for non-competitive riders?
<Looks down while shifting weight from one foot to the other >
Ah, nobody.

Yes, I know.

It’d mean dumping my other “things”

Probably needs to include walkers and public transport users. That is, advocacy for the “but I have to drive” crowd.

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Re: Insurance / westcycle membership

Postby Thoglette » Sat Jun 17, 2023 7:50 pm

Thoglette wrote:
Mon Jun 05, 2023 4:38 pm
IANAL but the wording on the wa.gov.au site is pretty vague around this)
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