War on cars

[Cyclophiliac]

https://www.iea.org/reports/a-10-point- ... ut-oil-use

A nice overall plan to cut car use, cleanup the environment, reduce noise, etc. I wish it could occur here, but I doubt any of our governments will ever do it. I got this link from CycleChat, where our UK forum counterparts are also pessimistic about the UK government ever taking action on it.

[Thoglette]

with the current fuel prices you’d think that there’d be some interest in lower speeds.
Easiest way there is to cut the fuel bill.

[opik_bidin]

Escooter and ebikes have it, why not cars.

Speed limiters set to be fittes on new cars

Thanks to an EU ruling

https://mobile.twitter.com/gregsmith_uk ... 52/photo/1

[Metadeth]

Escooter and ebikes have it, why not cars.

Speed limiters set to be fittes on new cars

Thanks to an EU ruling

https://mobile.twitter.com/gregsmith_uk ... 52/photo/1

Big Auto spends too much on lobbying

[mikesbytes]

Another attempt to get rid of the Cahill expressway in Sydney CBD but it will also require burying the rail tracks. We are seeing the steady removal of elevated motorways around the world.

Nice graphic of the end result
https://concreteplayground.com/sydney/d ... ic-squares

[g-boaf]

Rather that ditching the circular quay station and railway tracks, why not just use the area above it as some sort of green space. This would be popular with people working in that area. Also nicer than the endless paved areas.

Might be a lot cheaper - plus it would be a huge money maker to sell tickets for access to NYE celebrations to that area.

My old office had even better views of the fireworks if you had access to the right place (which the majority of people would never known about).

[mikesbytes]

Rather that ditching the circular quay station and railway tracks, why not just use the area above it as some sort of green space. This would be popular with people working in that area. Also nicer than the endless paved areas.

Might be a lot cheaper - plus it would be a huge money maker to sell tickets for access to NYE celebrations to that area.

My old office had even better views of the fireworks if you had access to the right place (which the majority of people would never known about).

They aren't planning to get rid of circular quay train station, the plan is to move it underground. I agree that it will be very expensive

[g-boaf]

Rather that ditching the circular quay station and railway tracks, why not just use the area above it as some sort of green space. This would be popular with people working in that area. Also nicer than the endless paved areas.

Might be a lot cheaper - plus it would be a huge money maker to sell tickets for access to NYE celebrations to that area.

My old office had even better views of the fireworks if you had access to the right place (which the majority of people would never known about).

They aren't planning to get rid of circular quay train station, the plan is to move it underground. I agree that it will be very expensive

What else might be underground already in that area (and the approaches to it) I don’t know. If I remember correctly the George Street light rail had many complications from things beneath the roadway that they didn’t expect.

[opik_bidin]

In Sydney with Westconnex, the Blue mountain tunnel, Western Harbour Tunnel & Beaches Link, and M12, his speech hold more echo than ever. Other cities may experience it too. Will the climate candidates, Adam Bandt or Albo make a statement as strong as Whitlam?

Gough Whitlam, 1972, election speech

After land and housing, there is a third basic element of the city – its transport. Australia must overcome the tyranny of the motor car, or face the destruction of its major cities as decent centres of our culture, our community, our civilisation. The national government must now accept a share of responsibility for the public transport systems of Australian cities.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOlatl6M00I

[brumby33]

In Sydney with Westconnex, the Blue mountain tunnel, Western Harbour Tunnel & Beaches Link, and M12, his speech hold more echo than ever. Other cities may experience it too. Will the climate candidates, Adam Bandt or Albo make a statement as strong as Whitlam?

Gough Whitlam, 1972, election speech

After land and housing, there is a third basic element of the city – its transport. Australia must overcome the tyranny of the motor car, or face the destruction of its major cities as decent centres of our culture, our community, our civilisation. The national government must now accept a share of responsibility for the public transport systems of Australian cities.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOlatl6M00I

Same bloke who signed the LIMA agreement in 1975 that seen long term manufacturing end in this Country

[mikesbytes]

What happens if you convert a road bridge to pedestrians and cyclists only?

[Thoglette]

Same bloke who signed the LIMA agreement in 1975 that seen long term manufacturing end in this Country

Same bloke who gave us free University & universal healthcare. And ended conscription.

And a dozen other things: to judge him on a single success or failure in a single term (but two election) govt. during the oil crisis & subsequent recession (nevermind the dismissal) is vastly oversimplifying matters.

One cannot blame the loss of manufacturing on a single event (yes I’ve read the agreement) over half a century ago while ignoring the structural issues and missteps (to be polite) of both the big manufacturers and subsequent governments. Or that it’s far too easy to make money here digging stuff out of the ground (see “Dutch Disease”)

[Cyclophiliac]

https://www.news.com.au/technology/moto ... c4622f8c38

(a) brought to us by Captain Obvious.
(b) I can't believe the Hun actually printed this.

[tpcycle]

https://www.news.com.au/technology/moto ... c4622f8c38

"Some 70 per cent felt that cyclists presented as much danger to pedestrians as cars or motorbikes, also holding a view that cyclists present a danger to drivers. The percentage of drivers holding those views was higher than almost any other country."

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Maybe this should be in Moron Motorists as well. That's the only way to explain the above. These people are morons.

[fat and old]

Come on guys, it's getting better. Not a single lycra wearer, assortment of bikes....even a BSO!

Freakin cyclists are never happy

[fat and old]

Same bloke who signed the LIMA agreement in 1975 that seen long term manufacturing end in this Country

Same bloke who gave us free University & universal healthcare. And ended conscription.

And gave Al Grassby a front bench meal ticket........I'd normally put a laughing smiley here, but I cannot think about flash Al without thinking about Donald Mackay.

[Cyclophiliac]

Another victory for the hard done by motorists, in their ongoing battle for the right to sit at red lights and pump out toxic fumes from their exhaust pipes:
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/vict ... 5aqia.html

[brumby33]

I think by the time 2030 comes, a lot has been done without civil riots in regards to cleaning up our environment especially in Larger Cities and large regional towns.

Since 1985, we have dumped lead based petrol, then only the last 20 plus years Hybrid cars that run on Electric and Petrol have became popular but not yet mainstream, cars are more efficient with everything being fuel injected with computerised control, ADR Pollution controls in this country and the adoption of Euro 5 & 6 Pollution Management systems so trucks are so much cleaner than the black soot inducing machines of the 70's and 80's. Delivery trucks too have much better fuel and pollution Management than they ever had.

Many LGAs across Australia are implementing active Transport solutions around their townships so people can get out and cycle and walk easier, busy main street areas in many towns and suburbs have reduced speed to 40 and even down to 30kph. Town Centres are usually 50kph maximum even on some wide thoroughfares.
I'm looking at moving down to Albury next January, have already bought a house there and when my tenant moves out, I'll be moving in, a job i've been offered is only a 5km 20 minute bike ride away, and the amount of money the Council is spending to make the City very good for cycling, is expected to be completed by this coming December. But as it is, it's only a very slow traffic way through the centre of town.

By 2030, I think that electric vehicles will be very popular for those who just need a car to go to work and to do the weekly shop etc, maybe more cars will be developed that can handle fast charging and can go more than 500kms on a full charge, delivery vehicles like vans and small 4 tonne trucks will be mostly electric and there'll be more e-bikes than ordinary bikes and scooters and so Cities and regional town will be very free of pollution and it'd be easy to breathe.
Remember when at the height on the Pandemic, there were no planes flying around, there was limited cars driving around due to lockdowns, the air was fresh, clean, the skies were blue (when it didn't rain lol) that is what it'll be like here in Australia by 2030, something to look forward to, get the Cities clean, make it more encouraging to get people out on bikes and if traffic movement in townships is more restricted, people will be encouraged to buy bicycles.

It's happening now, slowly but surely there's a major movement encouraged by greener minded Governments.

Many Countries adopting this, some more than others but by the 2030's when many cars in Cities are electric, petrol will be back down to under a dollar coz not many will be needing it.

Trains should be electric from Melbourne to Brisbane and while they are at it, improve the lines so they can get electric trains up over 160kph.

Anyway, that's how I see what will happen within the next 8 years....big changes will come!!

cheers

brumby33

[trailgumby]

Same bloke who signed the LIMA agreement in 1975 that seen long term manufacturing end in this Country

Same bloke who gave us free University & universal healthcare. And ended conscription.

And a dozen other things: to judge him on a single success or failure in a single term (but two election) govt. during the oil crisis & subsequent recession (nevermind the dismissal) is vastly oversimplifying matters.

One cannot blame the loss of manufacturing on a single event (yes I’ve read the agreement) over half a century ago while ignoring the structural issues and missteps (to be polite) of both the big manufacturers and subsequent governments. Or that it’s far too easy to make money here digging stuff out of the ground (see “Dutch Disease”)

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We should be returning to free university. It is an investment in the future of the nation. As a recipient of that generosity during the Fraser era I am forever grateful.

Neither I nor my working class parents would ever have been able to afford the tuition fees, and my wife and I would have been locked out of the home ownership market for decades if not forever if I'd had to repay student debt. I doubt I'd have been smart enough to have won a scholarship, and my then-undiagnosed ADHD would likely have seen me fall out of the program anyway. My abilities - modest as they are - would have remained largely untapped.

Since then I have repaid the investment the government made in my education many times over with increased tax receipts, not to mention the multiplier effect of my spending contributing to other people's incomes. The same is true for everyone in my cohort.

It is a no-brainer. The only hurdle to its reintroduction is political - the neolibs and their fellow travellers want to keep the path privilege to themselves. The small-mindedness of those who oppose it because they resent people getting something for free is a facepalm moment for me.

[Cyclophiliac]

The human race has its priorities seriously messed up:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ustainable

[mikesbytes]

The human race has its priorities seriously messed up:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ustainable

We should be encouraging new sales to be electric powered which will reduce the need for biofuels for legacy vehicles

[opik_bidin]

McCormack was right. Now 30 kmh is more acceptable and popular

https://www.theage.com.au/national/expe ... 5ax05.html


Smith and Dr John Crozier, chair of the national trauma committee of the Royal Australasian College of Surgeons, both advocate for urban speed limits of 30km/h, noting this halves the risk of pedestrian death.

[opik_bidin]

Drivers doing stupid things just because they are impatient. cost the SES time and resource that better be used to save others.

Trained and licensed.

If it was a cyclist....

https://fb.watch/e3O3mx9Hro/

Drivers have been caught in rapidly rising floodwaters at Prestons in our south-west. Motorists are being urged to stay away from floodwaters whilst on our roads.

[brumby33]

Drivers doing stupid things just because they are impatient. cost the SES time and resource that better be used to save others.

Trained and licensed.

If it was a cyclist....

https://fb.watch/e3O3mx9Hro/

Drivers have been caught in rapidly rising floodwaters at Prestons in our south-west. Motorists are being urged to stay away from floodwaters whilst on our roads.

I reckon those who try and drive through flood waters in the conditions we've just experienced should have their car insurance null & void, all these claims are pushing up all motorcar premiums so those who it has been proven eg: had to be rescued because they were too bloody stupid to drive through flooded areas, should not be entitled to insurance.
Sounds harsh perhaps but we are ALL paying for it whether we drive or leave the car in the Garage. Exceptions of course for the cars that get caught in flash flooding due to them being parked, no-body in them.

[opik_bidin]

Drivers doing stupid things just because they are impatient. cost the SES time and resource that better be used to save others.

Trained and licensed.

If it was a cyclist....

https://fb.watch/e3O3mx9Hro/

Drivers have been caught in rapidly rising floodwaters at Prestons in our south-west. Motorists are being urged to stay away from floodwaters whilst on our roads.

I reckon those who try and drive through flood waters in the conditions we've just experienced should have their car insurance null & void, all these claims are pushing up all motorcar premiums so those who it has been proven eg: had to be rescued because they were too bloody stupid to drive through flooded areas, should not be entitled to insurance.
Sounds harsh perhaps but we are ALL paying for it whether we drive or leave the car in the Garage. Exceptions of course for the cars that get caught in flash flooding due to them being parked, no-body in them.

Caught in flash flooding or trying to get out from dangerous areas is understandable. Opening barriers erected to prevent these incidents and then get caught is the one that should be punished