Bike storage - what have you got

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Bike storage - what have you got

Postby Warnesy » Sun Apr 17, 2022 7:11 pm

Hi All

So with the new steed one day closer (but probably still a few months away) i'm thinking about a few things it will need upon its arrival. While the Fonz sleeps outside, B2 will need to sleep inside. This is probably not my wife's perspective on that :D So I'm hoping to shift opinions by showing her some nice integrated bike storage solutions that look nice and can live inside without looking out of place...

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Re: Bike storage - what have you got

Postby Retrobyte » Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:17 pm

Not me, sorry - I've got basic Bunnings wall mounts in the garage that hang the bikes vertically by their front wheels. Not pretty, but space efficient in my garage.

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Re: Bike storage - what have you got

Postby warthog1 » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:00 pm

Bunnings hooks also in the garage, but horizontally by the top tube.
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Re: Bike storage - what have you got

Postby Retrobyte » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:29 pm

You have more space than me - if I took a photo you'd be frightened. Archive boxes and plastic crates from two grandparents who have passed away .. three jumbo crates just for my mum's family history CD-ROMS and folders, another three boxes for her photo albums, and a couple more for the crap from my childhood she kept in boxes. So much stuff that we don't know what to do with! Throw in a trainer bike and free weights for me and a treadmill for my missus and there's definitely no room for a car.

But for $9 per hook I'm not complaining ... https://www.bunnings.com.au/pinnacle-bi ... _id=117175

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Re: Bike storage - what have you got

Postby g-boaf » Mon Apr 18, 2022 6:23 am

I just have simple fold up stands I got from Athlete Lab Sydney before it closed (they were never used). You can get from bike bug. Nothing permanent fixed to walls.
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Re: Bike storage - what have you got

Postby DarkRider » Mon Apr 18, 2022 7:14 am

I have a wooden frame that holds the front wheel and stands the bike vertically. I made it in about 30 mins from pine off cuts with the idea that a second and third one could stand along side it for the kids bikes, but I haven't made those yet.

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Re: Bike storage - what have you got

Postby Bunged Knee » Mon Apr 18, 2022 8:53 am

Easy to make your own with off cuts.
https://www.instructables.com/DIY-Wall- ... Bike-Rack/
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Or need a jigsaw to make hand racks.
https://www.instructables.com/Bike-Wall ... PER-HANDY/
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Or search it in google of instructables for different ideas.
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Re: Bike storage - what have you got

Postby warthog1 » Mon Apr 18, 2022 10:35 am

Retrobyte wrote:
Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:29 pm
You have more space than me - if I took a photo you'd be frightened. Archive boxes and plastic crates from two grandparents who have passed away .. three jumbo crates just for my mum's family history CD-ROMS and folders, another three boxes for her photo albums, and a couple more for the crap from my childhood she kept in boxes. So much stuff that we don't know what to do with! Throw in a trainer bike and free weights for me and a treadmill for my missus and there's definitely no room for a car.

But for $9 per hook I'm not complaining ... https://www.bunnings.com.au/pinnacle-bi ... _id=117175
$8- per hook here :mrgreen:
https://www.bunnings.com.au/pinnacle-gl ... r_p2580675

Hanging by the front wheel takes up more space in some ways in that the bike projects further into the room from the wall.
I have 5 horizontal bike hooks in our double garage and we are still able to get 2 cars in, along with a freezer, fridge and a couple of shelving units of bike gear.
The hooks are mounted up high so that the cars' footprint is unaffected by them.
I would be interested to see how yours works?

I like carbon wheels too and dont want my bikes hanging from the spoke bed of a carbon wheel.
Probably strong enough but not good practice imo.
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Re: Bike storage - what have you got

Postby Retrobyte » Mon Apr 18, 2022 11:32 am

warthog1 wrote:
Mon Apr 18, 2022 10:35 am
I would be interested to see how yours works?
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Re: Bike storage - what have you got

Postby warthog1 » Mon Apr 18, 2022 11:43 am

Yikes :shock: :lol:
I see why it's those hooks :)
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Re: Bike storage - what have you got

Postby queequeg » Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:33 am

I’m just clearing out my garage right now as we’re getting the floor redone. I also have a new car on the way and it would great to get it in the garage instead of outside where the birds and bats crap on it all night, along with gum leaves and gum nuts getting in everything g.

I have just been storing my bikes in floor mounted “line up” racks. Pros are easy access, but downside is losing half the space in the garage. So, i am looking at wall mounted solutions too. The steady rack options look good as you can swing the bikes left/right to reduce how much they stick out. Horizontal racks would result in less projection into the garage but at the expense of taking up the entire wall (There are five adult bikes and two kids bikes), but I now also have an indoor/outdoor pain cave where I can keep the frequently used bikes.

Seeing how much crap i have in my garage tells me that if i keep two cars in there, it will prevent further accumulation of junk (in theory!)

Anyone ever had one of these garage storage folks come out and do a refit?
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Re: Bike storage - what have you got

Postby Bunged Knee » Tue Apr 19, 2022 11:19 am

Looks like too much work for that many bikes.



Google, "diy wall mount swivel bike rack" for more ideas.
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Re: Bike storage - what have you got

Postby DarkRider » Tue Apr 19, 2022 11:39 am

Mine is similar to that but it doesn't swivel. I have no need for the swivel because the shed is specifically for bikes. It's also made with a lot less worry about looks, just smooth edges and practicality, cut down from 75x45 pine.

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Postby AUbicycles » Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:14 am

Put together a video on three options. I really like the SteadyRack… they do have a pricetag but for me and my requirements, it was worthwhile (closing it up and also swinging them left / right).

At the top-end are the boutique ones… depends if you are handy and can DIY or not.

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Re: Bike storage - what have you got

Postby elantra » Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:55 am

AUbicycles wrote:
Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:14 am
Crikeys that “STEADYRACK” is a nice piece of kit !
I have 2 bikes mounted on the Bunnings 9 dollar wall hooky things. These work really well for bikes that do NOT have big fat tyres.
But as Christopher explains in the video above, the big advantage of the STEADYRACK is that it swivels - and thus gives you much better access to other stuff that is otherwise obstructed by the wall mounted bike(s).
2 other (older, heavier) road bikes are mounted horizontally beside each other on a 5 foot length of tube, which is suspended (horizontal) a few feet off the floor. This is quite space-efficient, especially if the front wheel is removed.
I don’t have a pic of this of it but it is easy and cheap to construct and also doubles as good way to transport 2 (or3 perhaps) bikes on the back tray of a flat tray ute.
The weight of the bike is taken by the left and right brake lever blocks, and the rear wheel.
It is the way to go if you are reluctant to go drilling into walls, or if your old road bike(s) is a bit heavy to get lifted up onto the wall.

I also have a mountain bike, which defeats any attempt to store it inside the house or garage in a space-efficient manner.
So it lives outside, exposed to the elements, where it probably belongs :wink:

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Re: Bike storage - what have you got

Postby Mr Purple » Wed Apr 20, 2022 1:05 pm

Thanks for that - I hadn't previously seen the point of the steadyrack, but that makes more sense.

The other option I've been looking at was something simple like this:

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Which uses the pedal to hold it. Makes me a bit nervous though; I'm thinking the Steadyrack may be a better option.

The main issue of course being the wife 'why do we have three bike hangers in our garage all of a sudden when you only have one bike?' Well....

Winner of the 'totally useless but still sort of want one' is this one:

https://designerbikestands.com/

So it manages to take up more room than just standing the bike on the floor anyway. I think if I was single I'd have one in my living room though.

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Re: Bike storage - what have you got

Postby P!N20 » Wed Apr 20, 2022 3:48 pm

elantra wrote:
Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:55 am
Crikeys that “STEADYRACK” is a nice piece of kit !
Yeah we've got them in the bike cage at work. I thought they looked flimsy before I used them, but they're pretty solid. I reckon I'll be using them when I get around to building my dedicated bike shed.

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Re: Bike storage - what have you got

Postby Retrobyte » Wed Apr 20, 2022 4:19 pm

Mr Purple wrote:
Wed Apr 20, 2022 1:05 pm
Thanks for that - I hadn't previously seen the point of the steadyrack, but that makes more sense.

The other option I've been looking at was something simple like this:

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Which uses the pedal to hold it. Makes me a bit nervous though; I'm thinking the Steadyrack may be a better option.

The main issue of course being the wife 'why do we have three bike hangers in our garage all of a sudden when you only have one bike?' Well....

Winner of the 'totally useless but still sort of want one' is this one:

https://designerbikestands.com/

So it manages to take up more room than just standing the bike on the floor anyway. I think if I was single I'd have one in my living room though.

Given the two pieces are based on the spacing between the base of the tyre and the pedal at the top of it's stroke, once you mount it to the wall it will only fit bikes with exactly the same geometry, including crank length

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Re: Bike storage - what have you got

Postby Thoglette » Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:23 pm

My #1 bike has a kickstand. That's all the storage it gets. Parked next to the other commuter vehicles (I've got storage next to it for various good/bad weather accessories: gloves, jackets, panniers)

Now, frames are a different matter. Stored well out of sight :-)
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Re: Bike storage - what have you got

Postby Duck! » Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:37 pm

warthog1 wrote:
Mon Apr 18, 2022 10:35 am
I like carbon wheels too and dont want my bikes hanging from the spoke bed of a carbon wheel.
Probably strong enough but not good practice imo.
Carbon rims with a solid, load-bearing spoke bed are fine to hang from, as the weight of the bike is far less than the tension load from the spokes. It's rims which are basically a shallow-section aluminium rim with a thin, non-structural fairing such as Mavic Cosmic and some early Giant SLRs that aren't good to hang from.
I had a thought, but it got run over as it crossed my mind.

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Re: Bike storage - what have you got

Postby warthog1 » Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:14 pm

Duck! wrote:
Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:37 pm
warthog1 wrote:
Mon Apr 18, 2022 10:35 am
I like carbon wheels too and dont want my bikes hanging from the spoke bed of a carbon wheel.
Probably strong enough but not good practice imo.
Carbon rims with a solid, load-bearing spoke bed are fine to hang from, as the weight of the bike is far less than the tension load from the spokes. It's rims which are basically a shallow-section aluminium rim with a thin, non-structural fairing such as Mavic Cosmic and some early Giant SLRs that aren't good to hang from.
There you go.
Yes this bloke says the same.
https://www.roadbikerider.com/follow-up ... e%20wheels.
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Postby AUbicycles » Thu Apr 21, 2022 12:01 am

A plus for the steady rack is they are easy to get the bikes in securely. If space allows, hooks are the other option (vertical) but you can’t have ‘holland bike’ type mudguards.

The tilted wall mounts can also be cost effective, but need planning, may need juggling (if a middle bike is blocked by another for example) and certainly required strength, so not optimal for daily use on heavier bikes.

I really liked the clug idea, but the issue is that if a tyre looses air, the mount no longer has grip and the bike can fall out. Happened to me twice.
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Re: Bike storage - what have you got

Postby Warnesy » Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:19 pm

Thanks all. I was thinking more of a cabinet but maybe that is unnecessarily elaborate.

Would this solve those clug issues? https://www.pushys.com.au/hornit-clug- ... lsrc=aw.ds

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Postby AUbicycles » Fri Apr 22, 2022 5:43 am

AUbicycles wrote:
Thu Apr 21, 2022 12:01 am
I really liked the clug idea, but the issue is that if a tyre looses air, the mount no longer has grip and the bike can fall out. Happened to me twice.

An elegant and nice option for a single bike that is in regular use. You can also set it up so it is fairly compact... but if you knock a bike, they can fall out...
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Re: Bike storage - what have you got

Postby warthog1 » Fri Apr 22, 2022 8:45 am

I was thinking about turning my disc braked bike and the effect on hydraulic brakes when turning it upside down.
You can get away with it apparently but not recommended long term storage wise.
This also came up;
https://smartbicycleowners.com/is-it-ba ... side-down/
Don't know about the accuracy with respect to vertical storage.

Edit;
I don't know much at all about bicycle hydraulic disc brakes.
Found this too;
Bicycle Hydraulic Brakes Are Sealed
First, John told me that it’s perfectly fine to hang disc brake bikes any way you want, because bicycle hydraulic brakes use sealed systems. Since they’re sealed, the brake fluid can’t get out and the air can’t get in. So hanging the bike won’t harm the brakes in any way.

Second, he explained that since Bill is having an issue with his brakes when he hangs the bike, it has to be because the system isn’t sealed anymore. This could happen if a piston had gotten stuck allowing air to get in behind it. Or, if somehow a pinhole had developed in a brake hose somewhere on the bike.

In that scenario, the brake could operate adequately when riding but it would be losing a small amount of fluid and simultaneously taking in a little air. Then, when the bike is hung upside down, the air could find its way to the high point and escape. That could result in the feeling Bill experienced having no brakes when he takes the bike down and checks it.

Which means he needs to find the problem and fix it. John said that the best way to find leaks is to look for traces of escaping brake fluid. If the fluid is getting out, air is getting in.

But, back to whether or not it’s safe to hang hydraulic disc equipped bikes upside down, my final take is that it depends. If you know your bike is in proper working order, you then know it’s safe to hang it upside down.

However, if you think your brakes might be going south, then you probably shouldn’t risk hanging it upside down. So, in my opinion, Bill’s comment was partly correct. And, hopefully, he’ll now find any issues with his brakes and seal them up again.


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