Punneet Puneet extradition status

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Postby neild » Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:43 am

Well it seems like it goes on. I can't read the article as it's behind a paywall but I think the headline says it all.

RUNAWAY HIT-RUN DRIVER MISSING IN INDIA AHEAD OF...
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Postby redsonic » Mon Jun 22, 2020 11:08 am

Here's a link to the article without a paywall:
https://www.thesenior.com.au/story/6801 ... a/?cs=9676

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Postby antigee » Mon Jun 22, 2020 1:13 pm

TheAge has an article today: (paywall after read so many articles)
"The Victorian government is making urgent representations to the Commonwealth over reports that hit-run driver Puneet Puneet has gone missing in India ahead of his expected extradition to Australia to face sentencing.".........................

"The Herald Sun reported on Monday that Puneet has gone missing in India, according to his father Naresh Kumar.
The report says Puneet was due to face court today for one of the last hearings before being extradited to Australia"


https://www.theage.com.au/national/vict ... 554uh.html

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Postby ColinOldnCranky » Mon Jun 22, 2020 1:47 pm

Unfortunately he was, after 18months in remand and much resistance in court by the Indian authorities, granted bail.

Bearing in mind that the family had been supporting him in his hiding for five years, making false representations to the police all that time that they had no idea of his whereabouts, any bail should have been prohibitive. Something life changing if they ever had to cough up.

Unfortunately the bail was a $4,000 bond. Hardly a big issue for the relatively comfortable family.

I hope the authorities give anyone associated with him a strong and unpleasant time until such time as they get him back in custody.
Puneet's family has told police he is missing and reportedly said he had sold his car and disappeared with the cash.

AAP rang Puneet's father on two numbers given by local police only to find both numbers switched off.
https://www.grenfellrecord.com.au/story ... a/?cs=9397
A condition of his bail set in 2013 (from memory) was to maintain a contactable phone.

Something to keep in mind : These stories are sometimes just hearsay. I note that it was about three months after bail was granted that he had gone missing again. I don't know if he was but, if he was, he was back to court shortly after.
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The fugitive has been found

Postby redsonic » Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:20 pm

Yahoo News:
Panchkula Police Inspector Joginder Singh told AAP they were trying to locate Puneet based on scant information provided by his father when he turned up at the police station on Wednesday.

"They [Puneet and his married girlfriend] ran off to Gurgaon (out the outskirts of the Indian capital). When the money [from selling his car] ran out, he came back. He turned up here with his father, who had filed a missing person's complaint. He didn't have much to say for himself," Mr Singh said.

He added that Puneet's life seemed to be in shambles.

"His wife has left him because of the girlfriend, the girlfriend has left him and his father seems fed up with everything.

"It's obvious that he is disturbed because he knows for certain that he will eventually have to face his punishment in Australia. He knows that," said Singh.

Police are taking no action against him.

Poor Man's life is in a shambles and his wife doesn't like his girlfriend. :roll:
The fact that his father is fed up with him bodes well for him finally being extradited as surely the money for lawyers has to run out sometime. Puneet sold his car for $8000 to finance this latest escape, so it sounds like he has few cards left to play.

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Re: Punneet Puneet extradition status

Postby mikesbytes » Sun Jul 19, 2020 7:38 pm

Eventually he will be enjoying a long rest at the expense of the Australian tax payer but it won't happen until they actually send him back to Australia
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Postby redsonic » Sun Jul 19, 2020 7:54 pm

Eventually he will be enjoying a long rest at the expense of the Australian tax payer but it won't happen until they actually send him back to Australia

The Yahoo News article states that there were 30 million cases pending in the Indian courts before they were closed by COVID a month ago, so no-one will be holding their breath.

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Postby ColinOldnCranky » Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:58 am

Puneet's unfortunate and estranged wife and their child can be added to the list of people dudded by this sad little prick. But I have to admit that I had a gratuitous giggle when I read this.

With the never-ending frustration that the Hofstee family and friends must feel at every turn, I hope that they glean some joy in the total and well deserved stuff up this fool has inflicted on himself and his family. Farcical.

Regardless of extradition, the odds of Puneet ever making his life anything but miserable are not looking great.
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Postby outnabike » Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:11 am

Juts on getting justice via extradition.
The case against that Israeli teacher accused of a crime against school girls in Australia is a memorable one.

And the case of a motorcyclist in England getting killed by the lady that incorrectly claimed to be a diplomat from the USA is another.

Pompeo himself is stopping it. And this seems to have been a pure accident. But retribution is not a certainty.
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Postby Derny Driver » Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:01 pm

A 21 year old Pakistani national has appeared in court and been granted bail after hitting a man crossing a road in Wollongong. The driver was speeding in a rental vehicle. After hitting the pedestrian he continued to the traffic lights at a major intersection with the bumper bar hanging off his car and scraping along the road. He ran the red light and sped away. He claimed later he thought he hit a bird.
The university of Wollongong student had to surrender his passport and the judge released him on bail.
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Postby outnabike » Tue Sep 22, 2020 4:20 pm

Yep watch out for an advertised family going away party perhaps.
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Postby ColinOldnCranky » Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:58 pm

MALKA LIEFER CASE

On a related case, on the 18 October Malka Liefer, the ultra-orthodox Jewish alleged pedophile was found, after many years of legal wrestling, to be able to be extradited to Oz.

I am assuming that is, short of appeals to a higher court or executive interference/mercy, the final step prior to actually putting her on a plane. Someone may be able to clarify this.
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Postby ColinOldnCranky » Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:12 pm

A worrying development in the case of Malka Liefer. Her lawyers of six years have abandoned her three weeks in advance of what is expected to be the hearing at which her extradition will be decided.

While the news items I have read make no suggestion of it, I suspect that it is one more tactical move to avoid what looks to be her inevitable extradition. I can't imagine her not being granted time to defer judgement while she seeks new representation and even more time for that representation get up to speed.

There are all sorts of ways to screw around with the judicial processes, something that we are seeing in spades in the cases of Liefer and Puneet.

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Postby fat and old » Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:52 pm

Regardless of what happens to her this time, she gets one more appeal apparently (so I read yesty or the day before).

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Postby Ross » Sun Dec 06, 2020 8:42 am

^Not sure what these last few posts have to do with Punneet Puneet?

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Postby redsonic » Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:49 am

Ross wrote:
Sun Dec 06, 2020 8:42 am
^Not sure what these last few posts have to do with Punneet Puneet?
Just another example of avoiding justice by playing the system overseas. Extradition is a complicated process which seems to be open to manipulation.

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Postby outnabike » Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:30 pm

Ross I am probably the guilty party that thought there was a semblance of explanation between the process of getting folks back to Ozz for a hearing.
Just looking at how the systems seem to be run and the likely outcomes. Nothing to do with differing allegations of cases.
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Postby ColinOldnCranky » Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:06 pm

If she has not already landed, Malka Leiffer is on the plane back to Oz.

It's been thirteen years since Leifer was flown out in the dead of night to safe haven Israel by her unscrupulous employing school just as Victorian authorities were being made aware of her (alleged) crimes. Now, hopefully, she does not drag it out much longer by gaming the laborious Australian legal system.

It's been eleven and a half years since Puneet absconded from Australia to India. Here's hoping that this is a portent of things to come with regards to Puneet.

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Postby redsonic » Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:32 am

Another attempt by lawyers to claim Punneet will not be safe in Australia because we are all racists. Claiming the slurs against the Indian cricket team prove this:

Daily Mail

Also mentioned in the Herald Sun, but behind a paywall

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Postby mikesbytes » Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:06 pm

redsonic wrote:
Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:32 am
Another attempt by lawyers to claim Punneet will not be safe in Australia because we are all racists. Claiming the slurs against the Indian cricket team prove this:

Daily Mail

Also mentioned in the Herald Sun, but behind a paywall
I'm assuming he has no other defense left

It took 6 years to get the lady out of Israeli. How long has it been now with Puneet?
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Postby familyguy » Thu Jan 28, 2021 1:30 pm

redsonic wrote:
Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:32 am
Another attempt by lawyers to claim Punneet will not be safe in Australia because we are all racists. Claiming the slurs against the Indian cricket team prove this:

Daily Mail

Also mentioned in the Herald Sun, but behind a paywall
Didn' t they just clear the fans that got ejected? Unless that now means we are more racist as we excuse racism against some people but not others?

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Postby AUbicycles » Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:57 pm

A small and probably obvious reminder is that the outrage is about individuals who are skipping / eluding the justice system. The outcome is still up to the courts. For higher profile cases, the higher level of media and public interest would be reassuring for a fair trial... although skipping justice would likely not weigh favourably with regard to the courts view of a perpetrator showing remorse for their actions.
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Postby Retrobyte » Sun Jan 31, 2021 9:35 am

ColinOldnCranky wrote:
Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:06 pm
If she has not already landed, Malka Leiffer is on the plane back to Oz.
Just stumbled on this thread for the first time. Is Malka back in time to ride in her local club championship?

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Postby find_bruce » Sun Jan 31, 2021 12:13 pm

Article on ABC news From the country's first serial killer to 'rug lord' Tony Mokbel: Australia's infamous extradition cases
around 12 requests per year & ~75% successful, but they don’t mention the average time.

As for Punneet, I still think the Australian government should, as an act of compassion, allow him to serve his time in an Indian prison
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Postby 1Rowdy1 » Sun Jan 31, 2021 8:32 pm

find_bruce wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 12:13 pm
Article on ABC news From the country's first serial killer to 'rug lord' Tony Mokbel: Australia's infamous extradition cases
around 12 requests per year & ~75% successful, but they don’t mention the average time.

As for Punneet, I still think the Australian government should, as an act of compassion, allow him to serve his time in an Indian prison
Does not deserve any compassion. IMO.

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