War on cars

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Re: War on cars

Postby opik_bidin » Tue May 26, 2020 12:27 am

USA, but echoes all over the world, like westconnex in sydney https://mobile.twitter.com/schlthss/sta ... 8941189127


a reminder that while our relatively small urbanist crowd debates redesign of urban streets, historically large and powerful groups are arguing for how to rapidly advance more highways & climate change inducing sprawl on society with coming stimulus.

https://transportationtodaynews.com/new ... s-package/

big ideas that have been pushed for years are being discussed with your legislatures...shortening the time for implementation of MEGA highway projects, limiting public input & debate. fast tracking land takings...constraining environmental impact reviews
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SKYWAYS and TUNNELS! who needs trains when we can subsidize truck convoys. why settle for 2 train drivers pulling 300 truck trailers on their train when you could have 300 truck drivers moving all that freight across the USA. JOBS JOBS JOBS

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Re: War on cars

Postby Comedian » Tue May 26, 2020 4:37 pm

Well this is great news. Car makers hoping people will avoid PT due to covid and buy MOAR cars!

https://www.drive.com.au/news/covid-19- ... kLink=SMH1

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Van moof ad

Postby opik_bidin » Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:02 am

Remind me how much car ads beat down walking, cycling and public transport? And why autos are heavily subsidized while little money for the other 3 cause such huge outrage?

https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2 ... ate-change

VanMoof’s e-bike ad banned in France for creating a ‘climate of anxiety’

The issue seems to stem mostly from the dire conditions of France’s auto industry. Sales are plummeting in the country due to the coronavirus pandemic and widespread economic decline. The government recently introduced an €8 billion plan to bail out the auto sector.

Meanwhile, bike sales have spiked in response to the coronavirus pandemic and global lockdown. E-bike companies, in particular, are reporting record sales. VanMoof is a direct-to-consumer company, meaning it bypasses traditional bike stores to sell its bikes online and through its own brand stores

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Re: War on cars

Postby 10speedsemiracer » Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:30 am

The ad has not been banned and has been shown in multiple EU markets (Germany, Netherlands).

The Association (Autorité de Régulation Professionnelle de la Publicité aka the ARPP) that represents the Advertising Industry in France has made a conditional recommendation that the ad not be aired in the greater Paris region, and Van Moof's Ad Agency have seized on this on their own Blog and misrepresented the scenario in order to create...this little bit of clickbait psych drama. And of course every IG influencer who dresses to the left has seized on the blogspam and shared it until it has reached semi-truth status.

The irony is that many more people will now seek out and view the ad than would previously have occurred (the Streisand Effect, where attempts to hide or conceal an event or information results in that item gaining more attention).

In this case, it's a really base use of social psychology designed to inspire reactance in the minds of the public by creating the impression that they are being wrongly denied information, when in fact this is not the case.

Watch the ad for yourself and see if there's anything there that merits a ban (in a liberal Western European country such as France..."Liberté, égalité, fraternité"...lol), or if there's an underhanded agenda at play here.



It further reinforces my belief that anyone who has trained as a Clinical Psych or Psychotherapist, and chooses to use their training and skillset in the production of marketing campaigns or ads is a steaming POS.
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Re: War on cars

Postby mikesbytes » Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:40 am

I've chatted to a French guy about the demise of the French auto manufacturing market and he said that the French manufacturers tried to compete on price with the Asian imports, where they should of competed on a quality front, elevating themselves such as the German manufactures have done.

The problem with the Auto industry in France is caused by the manufacturers themselves
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Re: War on cars

Postby opik_bidin » Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:05 pm

mikesbytes wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:40 am
I've chatted to a French guy about the demise of the French auto manufacturing market and he said that the French manufacturers tried to compete on price with the Asian imports, where they should of competed on a quality front, elevating themselves such as the German manufactures have done.

The problem with the Auto industry in France is caused by the manufacturers themselves
Now that this has happened, they should just manufacture cyles and e-cycles
Let them take the path of Charles Mochet who is a car producer but also produced the recumbent and velomobile that was so fast that it was banned and their one hour records were not legalized by UCI.

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Re: War on cars

Postby opik_bidin » Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:46 am

Lets see those who were so against McCormack about setting speed in busy cities to 30 kmh now go nuts and rage about this

https://amp.smh.com.au/national/nsw/man ... 55amd.html

Manly is now home to NSW's first 30km/h town centre, with the Northern Beaches Council slowing vehicles to protect visitors and locals who walk and cycle near the harbour and the beach.

And in Sydney's south-west, speeds in the "highly walkable" town centre of Liverpool will drop to 30km/h to protect vulnerable road users. School zone speeds in Liverpool and Manly will also be reduced from 40km/h to 30km/h with new orange warning signs.

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Re: War on cars

Postby opik_bidin » Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:36 pm

A Karen we need

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/ca ... 1595779126
But now I find myself living back in the seaside town in which I grew up, and I’m ready to stop complaining and take action instead. I’m furious at the number of people who jump in their cars to buy a pint of milk. I’m seriously peeved that the cat I stroked on the high street during lockdown has never been seen again because we’re all back out, driving merrily around and scaring off everything in sight.

I’m intensely frustrated that my local council – I should say some members of it – believe that the only way to deal with more traffic is to build more car parks, and cater to that demand rather than deter it. When I saw a woman park in a spot in the high street marked "loading bay only", I wanted to scream, “Karen!” at her and report her to the police. That would make me a Karen too, I suppose. A car-hating, police-phoning Karen.


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Re: War on cars

Postby opik_bidin » Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:19 am

Attitude change is always welcomed from the other side


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Driving work van today: stayed well back from cyclist to let her take route uphill when I started out.

Later, flashed a gentleman on a bike coming towards me between adjacent, poorly parked cars to let him through.

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Re: War on cars

Postby opik_bidin » Fri Aug 07, 2020 3:44 pm

Goo d thing Austroads now has something like tactical urbanism written in its article, with pop up cycleways being ridden as the pic

https://austroads.com.au/latest-news/ta ... o-covid-19

The need to make cities more safe, inclusive and meaningful to people is becoming the central focus of urban development. Cities around the world are using a tactical urbanism approach to enhance the build environment and address the needs of their communities.

“The COVID-19 pandemic has increased the demand for tactical urbanism solutions to make streets and other public spaces both safe and sociable through projects that are quick, inexpensive and can be modified over time based on community needs,” said Richard Delplace, Austroads Program Manager Transport Network Operations
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There is also placemaking, with roads turned to patios as the pic

https://austroads.com.au/latest-news/va ... ort-system

Transport agencies’ increasing adoption of the Movement and Place framework in transport planning demonstrates their focus on enabling good Place outcomes as well as traditional Movement outcomes. Austroads has published a research report to guide transport practitioners in better classifying, measuring and valuing Place through transport planning processes.

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Once again, it's perceptions of safety keeping riders off the road (UK)

Postby Thoglette » Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:43 pm


Two-thirds of adults in England feel cycling is dangerous
Figures from the government’s National Travel Attitudes Study showed 66% of adults in England said it was “dangerous for me to cycle on the roads”, up from 61% a year before and the highest figure for more than a decade.
Afterall, it's a country where the answer to cyclists being killed by cars is to ban the cyclists, even when cars crash into each other on the same stretch 50x more often
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Re: War on cars

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Re: War on cars

Postby mikesbytes » Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:27 pm

P!N20 wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:15 am
Can’t see anything going wrong: https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2020-08- ... s/12599544
They would need to be fully automated, ie we need to remove the nut behind the controls

I'm wondering about energy consumption, while it takes more energy to fly they will be a lot lighter and smaller than a car
If the R-1 rule is broken, what happens to N+1?

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Re: War on cars

Postby brumby33 » Sat Aug 29, 2020 3:31 pm

I can see many people getting free haircuts :lol: :lol:
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Re: War on cars

Postby human909 » Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:42 pm

mikesbytes wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:27 pm
I'm wondering about energy consumption, while it takes more energy to fly they will be a lot lighter and smaller than a car
Wait until you see the "sports utility" version. Or the tradie version! :lol: :?

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Re: War on cars

Postby bychosis » Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:33 am

human909 wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:42 pm
mikesbytes wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:27 pm
I'm wondering about energy consumption, while it takes more energy to fly they will be a lot lighter and smaller than a car
Wait until you see the "sports utility" version. Or the tradie version! :lol: :?
I’m wondering about the noise. Road traffic noise is already pretty bad and helicopters and drones seem t be significantly noisier with current technology.
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Re: War on cars

Postby opik_bidin » Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:31 am

It is now here, time for murderers to be given justice

https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-5414172 ... ssion=true

Drivers who kill others after speeding, racing or using a phone could receive life sentences under new legislation.

Those who cause death by careless driving under the influence of drink or drugs could also get a life sentence.

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Re: War on cars

Postby Comedian » Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:54 am

mikesbytes wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:40 am
I've chatted to a French guy about the demise of the French auto manufacturing market and he said that the French manufacturers tried to compete on price with the Asian imports, where they should of competed on a quality front, elevating themselves such as the German manufactures have done.

The problem with the Auto industry in France is caused by the manufacturers themselves
Renault have announced that they will no longer bring in passenger cars to Australia. Nissan has done this as well.. with the only car they now bring is the Leaf which has issues.

The price of small cars has risen only very slightly in the last 30 years. I've noted the manufacturers are trying to lift the prices of small cars.. I guess they are addicted to SUV margins.

https://www.whichcar.com.au/news/toyota ... price-rise

Long term I think we will see a situation where small cars will all be electric and expensive by todays standards, and SUV's will be diesel/petrol hybrid.

Either way the whole SUV thing appears to be global, so look for more and more SUV's on our roads.

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Car on bike trail

Postby opik_bidin » Thu Sep 24, 2020 5:45 pm

Well, at least I have some counter now when MtB ridera point out cars cannot go offroad to where they are

https://www.thedrive.com/news/36651/the ... bike-trail

when you're driving somewhere outside of your comfort zone. With no one to yank you from a rut or, worse yet, pull you out of your rig if things get tippy, you're asking for trouble. It looks like a California Jeeper learned this for themselves sometime in the past few days as their mostly stock Wrangler now sits abandoned atop a highline hiking trail.

Damning photos of the four-door Jeep were posted to the Hemet Eye News Facebook group and almost immediately shared a thousand times over. There's little context to go off of, but it's clear to see the—ahem—adventurous wheelman decided they'd had enough of the narrow trail. With a steep dropoff looming no matter what route they took and the passenger side hanging toward a rocky ravine, giving up was definitely the best choice they made that day.

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Re: War on cars

Postby Thoglette » Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:50 pm

mikesbytes wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:27 pm
P!N20 wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:15 am
Can’t see anything going wrong: https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2020-08- ... s/12599544
They would need to be fully automated, ie we need to remove the nut behind the controls

I'm wondering about energy consumption, while it takes more energy to fly they will be a lot lighter and smaller than a car
Until someone works out how to get the certification and running costs (including liability insurance) below that of an equivalent helicopter (hello Bronwyn, is that your expense claim?) they’ll remain just a pipe dream.

That they’ll chew waaaay more fuel (and Avgas or JetA not 91 ULP) than the equivalent ground transport is lost in the noise.
There are a number of potted histories of flying cars around (eg popular mechanics ) and every decade someone has a tilt at this particular windmill
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Re: War on cars

Postby mikesbytes » Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:00 pm

I wish them luck in getting that vehicle back
If the R-1 rule is broken, what happens to N+1?

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Re: Car on bike trail

Postby Comedian » Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:37 pm

opik_bidin wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 5:45 pm
Well, at least I have some counter now when MtB ridera point out cars cannot go offroad to where they are

https://www.thedrive.com/news/36651/the ... bike-trail

when you're driving somewhere outside of your comfort zone. With no one to yank you from a rut or, worse yet, pull you out of your rig if things get tippy, you're asking for trouble. It looks like a California Jeeper learned this for themselves sometime in the past few days as their mostly stock Wrangler now sits abandoned atop a highline hiking trail.

Damning photos of the four-door Jeep were posted to the Hemet Eye News Facebook group and almost immediately shared a thousand times over. There's little context to go off of, but it's clear to see the—ahem—adventurous wheelman decided they'd had enough of the narrow trail. With a steep dropoff looming no matter what route they took and the passenger side hanging toward a rocky ravine, giving up was definitely the best choice they made that day.
You should try taking your 4x4 into the Vic high country. Lots of opportunities to roll down a cliff. :o

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Re: War on cars

Postby antigee » Fri Oct 09, 2020 12:53 pm

Mandatory speed limiters for EU vehicles in 2022...but surprise surprise pushing the accelerator down is the override this article suggests will come to Aus' by default

https://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/d ... eu-117707/

Meanwhile my local shopping strip complete with bus stops community centre and rail station has a 60km/hr limit anyway

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Re: War on cars

Postby opik_bidin » Sat Oct 10, 2020 12:38 am

https://twitter.com/6ixbuzztv/status/13 ... 0260137984

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