Training for a 600 m race
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Re: Training for a 600 m race
Postby NickF » Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:11 pm
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Re: Training for a 600 m race
Postby NickF » Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:43 pm
Today was windy and although the wind direction was not quite right (wind coming from West), my segments have some portion of them going NNE, so I had a bit of advantage.
On Twin Gums today I got a 1:01 and a 1:00, therefore improving my previous PR by 1 second. It was the hardest earned second, I pushed myself as far as I could. I am now on third place, shared with another rider.
On Banks Reserve, I also improved my time by 1 second (today I did 0:32, 0:33, 0:32, 0:31). My fastest time happened when I was well warmed-up, returning from a 20 km ride. I am now KOM (second place) together with another rider, both with 31 seconds.
In fact, the graph comparison shows I am still slower by about 1/3 of a second.
Before the ride today, I worked on myself - I shaved myself, shaved my eyebrows and underarms, plucked my eyelids and nose hair, used the strongest moisturizer on my skin and I left home my undies, to save a bit of weight and be more slippery. I noticed people were paying more attention to me, probably because I am in top shape!
I will need to train some more, lose some weight and success is inevitable... provided no other better rider decides to take on my segments
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Re: Training for a 600 m race
Postby foo on patrol » Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:25 am
You what?NickF wrote:Before the ride today, I worked on myself - I shaved myself, shaved my eyebrows and underarms, plucked my eyelids and nose hair, used the strongest moisturizer on my skin and I left home my undies, to save a bit of weight and be more slippery. I noticed people were paying more attention to me, probably because I am in top shape!
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Re: Training for a 600 m race
Postby NickF » Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:18 am
You know, to improve my aerodynamic coefficient. One can't become number 1 without making some sacrificesfoo on patrol wrote:You what?NickF wrote:Before the ride today, I worked on myself - I shaved myself, shaved my eyebrows and underarms, plucked my eyelids and nose hair, used the strongest moisturizer on my skin and I left home my undies, to save a bit of weight and be more slippery. I noticed people were paying more attention to me, probably because I am in top shape!
Foo
Now, children, don't try this at home. Or, in other words, don't believe everything you read on the internet
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Re: Training for a 600 m race
Postby Peter A » Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:42 pm
All in the floppy T shirt and footy shorts ?
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Re: Training for a 600 m race
Postby kb » Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:22 pm
Pretty pointless anyway. Skin suits are quite a bit faster than skinNickF wrote:You know, to improve my aerodynamic coefficient. One can't become number 1 without making some sacrificesfoo on patrol wrote:You what?NickF wrote:Before the ride today, I worked on myself - I shaved myself, shaved my eyebrows and underarms, plucked my eyelids and nose hair, used the strongest moisturizer on my skin and I left home my undies, to save a bit of weight and be more slippery. I noticed people were paying more attention to me, probably because I am in top shape!
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Re: Training for a 600 m race
Postby NickF » Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:30 pm
I didn't know that, thanks for telling me.kb wrote: Pretty pointless anyway. Skin suits are quite a bit faster than skin
Is that a cat you're holding? I've got seven of them (and none of them were mine)! I'm the crazy cat lady from The Simpsons.
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Re: Training for a 600 m race
Postby NickF » Sat Jul 20, 2019 3:04 pm
Before I was working too hard in the beginning and running out of energy toward the end of it. I am now in position 37/489, with an average speed of 25.4 km/h.
My next goal is to improve my time by more than 8 seconds, which will bring me on first page and top 25 riders.
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Re: Training for a 600 m race
Postby Peter A » Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:07 pm
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Re: Training for a 600 m race
Postby NickF » Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:14 pm
Not today though. I'm listening to Sandra, "Everlasting love" and Pet Shop Boys, "It's a sin". So 80'sPeter A wrote:Up and away Nick, keep on peddling
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Re: Training for a 600 m race
Postby NickF » Sat Aug 03, 2019 6:01 pm
Yesterday I've been a naughty boy, I didn't eat decent food last night, I just ate chocolate. Last weekend I didn't ride, I mowed the lawn instead and ended up with sore legs.Today I didn't feel in top shape so I didn't attempt a record on my short segments. I was very surprised I managed to obtain such a good time, when I didn't force myself to the max. I tried to keep a consistent effort along the segment. I didn't expect to beat my previous record.
An even bigger surprise was finding what my maximum heart rate was - 190 bmp. That is very strange for me. Almost 20 years ago I found out that if I do strong efforts at the gym, when my pulse was reaching about 140 I was feeling really bad - the image was becoming black and I had to sit down.
Sometimes it happens when to go to the toilet in the middle of the night, I suddenly feel really bad and I have to sit or hold onto furniture. It doesn't happen often, maybe once every few years. Last time it happened to me about two months ago.
In the past, three different doctors during routine checks sent me to see a cardiologist. I ended up twice at the same expert. First time he told me I am ok. Second time, a few years later he got a bit pissed off. He told me not to get so emotional when a young female doctor listens to my heart That happened over 20 years ago. Since then, I had no checks on my heart, that I can remember of.
I was looking at a table with the maximum heart rate depending on age and for old chaps like myself, is 169. What happens if I exceed this value? Do I die? What if I lie about my age, can I use a higher value?
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Re: Training for a 600 m race
Postby Derny Driver » Sat Aug 03, 2019 10:54 pm
Im trying not to comment on this thread ..not sure if you are taking the P$$ , have psychological problems, or seriously think Strava segments are a "race" or a measure of anything ....NickF wrote:
I was looking at a table with the maximum heart rate depending on age and for old chaps like myself, is 169. What happens if I exceed this value? Do I die? What if I lie about my age, can I use a higher value?
anyway, I'll bite
Maximum (and minimum) heart rate is unique to each individual. Charts dont mean anything. Some people have very high maximums, some low. I wont bore you with examples.
The heart is a muscle, you cant hurt it. Its not like a car engine where you if you rev the crap out of it for too long it will blow a piston. The heart has an inbuilt rev limiter. If you have the necessary adrenaline and external stimuli to allow you to go to your maximum heart rate, nothing will happen. You will eventually get tired and have to slow down / ease the effort.
Disclaimer: I am not a doctor, you should see medical advice / counselling
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Re: Training for a 600 m race
Postby foo on patrol » Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:16 am
Pffft, I get mine over 200bpm and I'm in my 60s.NickF wrote:I was looking at a table with the maximum heart rate depending on age and for old chaps like myself, is 169. What happens if I exceed this value? Do I die? What if I lie about my age, can I use a higher value?
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Re: Training for a 600 m race
Postby Peter A » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:00 am
I asked my Doc. 18 months ago if 173bpm that I'd spotted on the garmin was going to kill me, what did it mean ?
He told me I was "just fit" and don't worry about it. Seen it 180+ since and (AT) late 60's see that the charts don't quote anything like that, let alone FOO's 200+ in his 60's.
Keep enjoying the bike, chocolate, beer or whatever, it's all good in moderation
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Re: Training for a 600 m race
Postby Arbuckle23 » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:12 am
My voteDerny Driver wrote: .. you are taking the P$$
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Re: Training for a 600 m race
Postby NickF » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:53 am
Derny Driver, thank you for your feedback. I take all the feedback very seriously, especially since this is the *second* time this week when somebody is questioning my mental integrity. My complaint on Woolworths' Facebook page about not finding toothpicks in the local store for over two months attracted a lot of attention: https://www.facebook.com/woolworthsmeme ... on_generic. I received heaps of comments and advice and some people even hinted that I may be "a few sandwiches short of a picnic"! By the number of upvotes, I can assess other members of society feel the same about myself. My post even got on the Woolworths Memes page. It was a memorable event, I will cherish it for the rest of my life!Derny Driver wrote: Im trying not to comment on this thread ..not sure if you are taking the P$$ , have psychological problems, or seriously think Strava segments are a "race" or a measure of anything ....
Anyway, my thoughts are - if one person says you are drunk, you can ignore him. If two people say you are drunk, you'd better go do sleep. In my case, I'll just go to Woolies, maybe they brought in those toothpicks!
I should probably get some of those ooshies. I considered the people who collect them are crazy! In my stupidity, I thought they are just five cents pieces of garbage rubber intended for (and collected by) three-year olds. But then I read that some people make good money by selling them on ebay: https://www.communitynews.com.au/wester ... es-online/.
Sorry to hear you feel dragged in all this nonsense. But you shared good information, thanks for that!Derny Driver wrote: anyway, I'll bite
Maximum (and minimum) heart rate is unique to each individual. Charts don't mean anything. Some people have very high maximums, some low. I wont bore you with examples.
The heart is a muscle, you cant hurt it. Its not like a car engine where you if you rev the crap out of it for too long it will blow a piston. The heart has an inbuilt rev limiter. If you have the necessary adrenaline and external stimuli to allow you to go to your maximum heart rate, nothing will happen. You will eventually get tired and have to slow down / ease the effort.
You mean a psychologist, or a psychiatrist?Derny Driver wrote: Disclaimer: I am not a doctor, you should see medical advice / counselling
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Re: Training for a 600 m race
Postby NickF » Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:11 pm
Thanks Peter, you are a real friend. You support me through tick and thin and never lose trust in myself.Peter A wrote:Keep knocking up the Km's Nick, you prob didn't think (3 months ago) that you would cover 105KM in a day, nice work, yr getting fitter.
I asked my Doc. 18 months ago if 173bpm that I'd spotted on the garmin was going to kill me, what did it mean ?
He told me I was "just fit" and don't worry about it. Seen it 180+ since and (AT) late 60's see that the charts don't quote anything like that, let alone FOO's 200+ in his 60's.
Keep enjoying the bike, chocolate, beer or whatever, it's all good in moderation
Good to know others reached high beat rates and haven't died (yet).
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Re: Training for a 600 m race
Postby foo on patrol » Mon Aug 05, 2019 6:39 am
Just as a point of interest, Derny Driver has meet me and can vouch that I'm no skinny arsed youngin.Peter A wrote:Keep knocking up the Km's Nick, you prob didn't think (3 months ago) that you would cover 105KM in a day, nice work, yr getting fitter.
I asked my Doc. 18 months ago if 173bpm that I'd spotted on the garmin was going to kill me, what did it mean ?
He told me I was "just fit" and don't worry about it. Seen it 180+ since and (AT) late 60's see that the charts don't quote anything like that, let alone FOO's 200+ in his 60's.
Keep enjoying the bike, chocolate, beer or whatever, it's all good in moderation
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Re: Training for a 600 m race
Postby Peter A » Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:23 pm
was saying is that the charts commonly available online don't go close to fit cyclists MHR at given yrs of age.
The nature of forums is that we all have a bit of humour/fun/stir/hang sh*t etc etc, it's not real personal
stuff Nick
Keep knocking up them K's Nick, enjoy the fitness from the bike.
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Re: Training for a 600 m race
Postby NickF » Sat Aug 10, 2019 4:42 pm
Today I went out for a short ride. It was windy and pretty cold. The wind did not favor my segments and I didn't have any success improving my time on the ones I tried. One of the few significant results I had today is on the segment called "FB Stink Sprint" (https://www.strava.com/segments/1365530?filter=overall), where I reached position 780/14940. I can't be any prouder than knowing that famous people, such as the rocket-man Gary Williams or memorable names such as Ted E. Bear and Gaylord Forker also visited this segment.
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Re: Training for a 600 m race
Postby NickF » Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:55 pm
I also tried to improve my time on the short segment Banks Reserve (310 m), but I am stuck at 0:32 seconds (I've done it six times). Only once I finished in 0:31. If I'd do it in 0:30, I'd become KOM on the segment, but these two seconds require more work than what I'm currently doing. Maybe I'll train mid-week on the exercise bike, which I haven't used in a few weeks. I think just three minutes of high intensity training on Tuesday and Thursday could help me improve my time.
Today I've done a 43 km ride and I discovered I can go up on the small hills in the highest gear of the cassette and the second gear of the chainset. It was quite a pleasant surprise, it seems I become more fit.
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Re: Training for a 600 m race
Postby Derny Driver » Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:17 am
Strengthies in the 53-11NickF wrote:
Today I've done a 43 km ride and I discovered I can go up on the small hills in the highest gear of the cassette and the second gear of the chainset..
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Re: Training for a 600 m race
Postby Peter A » Mon Aug 19, 2019 2:36 pm
riding fitness. Get real - LOL
Respectively suggest to keep at it over Summer/Autumn, compare times then to now, you might (will) be surprised.
(Enjoy the journey, it's often better than the arrival.)
Nice work BTW.
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Re: Training for a 600 m race
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Re: Training for a 600 m race
Postby Mr Purple » Mon Feb 19, 2024 7:28 am
I assume the original poster was joking. Because this is the segment here:
https://www.strava.com/activities/26253 ... 6358307488
Two seconds looking at that one and the KOM will be 2% rider strength, 2% wind direction, 0.1% equipment choice and 95.9% the willingness to ride it in a completely antisocial way. It's twisty, narrow, flat and a shared path in a park.
Reckon I could top 45km/hr through there if I were willing to be antisocial enough (which I wouldn't). I see the original poster ended up making it to 7th at 34.9km/hr so he may not have actually been taking the proverbial!
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